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Originally posted by lucidclouds
Originally posted by Pockets
reply to post by Old Man
come on, how has the bible ever been right, I want to know
Isaiah said a guy named Cyrus would destroy Babylon. 500 years later it happend.
"This is what Jehovah has said to his anointed one, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have taken hold of, to subdue before him nations, so that I may ungird even the hips of kings; to open before him the two-leaved doors, so that even the gates will not be shut"
Isaiah 45:1
Originally posted by OldThinker
reply to post by XyZeR
XyZeR,
Good one...
Now can we have an 'intellectual' discussion ?
1) who are you 'sorry' TO?
2) from where does the irreverence come from, did you have a mean sunday school teacher?
3) why do you connect 'religion' with a sincere relationship with Jesus Christ?
4) Are you 'open' to meeting HIM?
I gotta go to worrk...thanks for joining the conversation...
Originally posted by angel of lightangelo
Originally posted by lucidclouds
Originally posted by Pockets
reply to post by Old Man
come on, how has the bible ever been right, I want to know
Isaiah said a guy named Cyrus would destroy Babylon. 500 years later it happend.
"This is what Jehovah has said to his anointed one, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have taken hold of, to subdue before him nations, so that I may ungird even the hips of kings; to open before him the two-leaved doors, so that even the gates will not be shut"
Isaiah 45:1
Care to back any of this up? prove it was predicted before it happend. Heck, just for fun, prove it happend too.
[edit on 18-11-2008 by angel of lightangelo]
He lived till the fourteenth year of Hezekiah (who died 698 BC),
In 539 BC, Cyrus captured Elam (Susiana) and its capital, Susa[citation needed]. Towards the end of September, Cyrus' armies, under the command of Gubaru, the governor of Gutium, attacked Opis on the river Tigris and defeated the Babylonian army.
On October 10, the city of Sippar was seized without a battle, with little to no resistance from the populace. It is probable that Cyrus engaged in negotiations with the Babylonian generals to obtain a compromise on their part and therefore avoid an armed confrontation.[24] Nabonidus was staying in the city at the time, and soon fled to the capital, Babylon, which he had not visited in years.[25]
Two days later, on October 12 (Julian calendar; October 7 by the Gregorian calendar), Gubaru's troops entered Babylon, again without any resistance from the Babylonian armies. Herodotus explains that to accomplish this feat, the Persians diverted the Euphrates river into a canal so that the water level dropped "to the height of the middle of a man's thigh," which allowed the invading forces to march directly through the river bed to enter at night.[26] On October 29, Cyrus himself entered the city of Babylon and detained Nabonidus.
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3.)I'm confused now, where have i done that ? Care to quote me ? where or why did you conclude that ?
4.) Meeting "HIM" is inpossible, for HE does not exist. Pretty simple
I hope that answers some of your questions.
Originally posted by OldThinker
I'm sorry your worldview is so limited...
'Religion' is a negative to you by what you have said and also you signature...
I'm not talking about man's attempt to get to God...i.e. religion
I'm talking about a relationship with the creator of the universe...did you know that JC holds the world together that we see (or don't see)
Yes he's that quantum/sub-structure that the scientists don't understand---pls look into it...at the sub sub atominc level the math doesn't add up...."why aren't things falling about" the smart ones ask...the answer is here...
1 Colossians 16 & 17 says, “For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.”
Originally posted by angel of lightangelo
I am very confused. You believe in Jesus Christ but not religion? Where is it that you heard about JC? I know it was not history class. Take away religion and its man made constructs of control and where does Jesus show up on his own?
Sorry but i prefer the scienitfic method in which i can observe and test proven facts ....
Originally posted by OldThinker
reply to post by angel of lightangelo
angel of lightangelo, HI!
did you see my definitions/difference between religion and a (personal) relationship with JC? separate from religion?
OT curious