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Binary code reply? Has this been proven to be a hoax?

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posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 02:30 AM
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originally posted by: Ross 54
Another objection, is that it would make more sense for a extraterrestrial civilization to send a radio reply, or appear in person on Earth, rather than meddle with fields of grain. We are scarcely in a position to pronounce on how another intelligent form of life would think or behave.

No, but because this is a supposed response by alien beings, it would be evidence of their intelligence. This wasn't a message beamed into space as a photograph. It was a radio wave signal that had to go through several steps in order for it to become this visual message. That ability to decipher and understand, would most likely result in the same method used to respond.


For all we know, they may consider an overt message or visit to be inappropriate, given our obvious xenophobia. They may wish to approach us in subtlety , and very gradually. We, after all, have no experience in meeting an extraterrestrial intelligence, whereas they presumably do.

You think aliens coming to Earth and smashing patterns in wheat at night and zipping back less threatening or more subtle than a radio signal beamed back in the same direction acknowledging the existence of another intelligent life form? If they are slowly weaning us to their existence, it wouldn't be by hiding and sneaking around at night making geometrical patterns in the English countryside. Surely they would be more intelligent than that.

Human beings have and do make these circles. By default, that is the answer. Where's the evidence that a stereotypical big headed- large eyed alien, DNA strand, a different solar system, etc. prove this made by intelligent alien beings? We need more than a desire for it to be real.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 12:33 PM
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I don't suppose that there is any one, universally correct answer to the question: Who or what causes crop circles?
Some are obviously manmade. I leave open the possibility that some may not be.
The notion that some crop circles may be a form of extraterrestrial communications raises a number of interesting questions. Among these is the one you raised. Is a crop circle a more or a less subtle form of communications for extraterrestrials to use, as compared to a radio signal?
It appears to me that the crop circle is the more subtle. The radio signal would probably be quickly understood to be an extraterrestrial communication. The 'Arecibo message reply' crop circle appeared 6 years ago. The very idea of it being an ET communication is still being debated. This sort of ambiguity in the popular conception of this event, with the idea of extraterrestrial contact being suggested but not certainly established, may be exactly what was intended.

The idea of one species carefully and very gradually presenting itself to another is well known to primatologists. They may linger for a long time in the territory of the apes they wish to study, before meeting them face to face. All the while, the fact of their presence is gradually borne in on the primates, and in the absence of trouble, may be slowly accepted, and eventually even taken for granted.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 10:55 PM
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The notion that some crop circles may be a form of extraterrestrial communications raises a number of interesting questions. Among these is the one you raised. Is a crop circle a more or a less subtle form of communications for extraterrestrials to use, as compared to a radio signal?
It appears to me that the crop circle is the more subtle. The radio signal would probably be quickly understood to be an extraterrestrial communication. The 'Arecibo message reply' crop circle appeared 6 years ago. The very idea of it being an ET communication is still being debated. This sort of ambiguity in the popular conception of this event, with the idea of extraterrestrial contact being suggested but not certainly established, may be exactly what was intended.

A message from a distance (which would be relatively close if these circles were alien) would be much less threatening than physical visitation from beings that create messages at night and disappear. With a radio signal or similar communication, we would have a buffer of distance before any physical contact is made. An exchange of communication before any visual contact.


The idea of one species carefully and very gradually presenting itself to another is well known to primatologists. They may linger for a long time in the territory of the apes they wish to study, before meeting them face to face. All the while, the fact of their presence is gradually borne in on the primates, and in the absence of trouble, may be slowly accepted, and eventually even taken for granted.

They are waiting at a distance. They don't encroach upon the primates territory secretly placing cryptic messages in the dirt in the area where they live and then vanish. That would be threatening behavior to the primates. Further, Primatologists wouldn't repeat this same cryptic message pattern for years on end if their purpose is communication with this species and their method isn't working or confusing to the apes. Common sense comes into play at some point, just as with any intelligent species trying to communicate with us. If it's obvious this method isn't working or confusing, why continue on decades more doing the same thing? Do they kinda want to be known? Are they jokester aliens? The entire premise makes no sense. You can always toss in it's possible. Sure it's possible, anything is possible. It's possible dancing devils created them. But, they're man-made until overwhelming evidence says otherwise.



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