My first contact with another being

reply to post by smokingman2006

but on a lighter note is it not funny or strange that each time I put up a large post beamish does his up most to swamp it will gibbishish rabbles regardless of what time of the day or night it is.

Well, if the truth be told, I continuously ask questions that you persist in refusing to answer. If that is “swamping”, then guilty as charged.

This quote is following directly on from RussianScientists post and his insinuation that I’m working for and Intelligence Agency. More on this at the end of this post…

I assume that when you say “gibbishish”, you mean gibberish, as in nonsensical rambling? When have I ever blathered or digressed from the subject unless in answer to a direct question? Point it out to me, otherwise I’m going to take that comment in the manner it was intended; an attempt at derision. If you can’t attack the subject, attack the person.

and never reference to it.

This I’ll chalk up to your self proclaimed limited English vocabulary, as it makes little sense.

In a casino I would take all his chips he is soooo readable

Firstly, I’m really glad you can afford to frequent casinos. The life of a famous baccarat player must be hard to abandon, even if you’re an alien ambassador. And I’m readable? This from a man who produces generic contact scenarios.

To address this Agent matter; I’m pretty sure there are several adherents of yours that believe I am a real dis-info operative. Ok, please read this:

For some time now I have been employed, by various groups and concerns, and often under the auspices of my own agenda, to utilise what talent I have at my disposal to alter, even temporarily, the opinions and viewpoints of the general public.

Whilst this may not be the most lucrative job (it pays in varying degrees depending on the resource I am asked to apply to any given situation) or even the most agreeable form of service (most do not know how to react to a watered-down job description; reactions vary to an indifferent and uncomprehending ‘Oh, that’s interesting’, to, ‘Really! Tell me more!’), I have to admit that sometimes I just do what I do purely for the sense of immense satisfaction it provides. Many might, if they were acquainted with my rate of success, question my record of accomplishments in these fields, and rightly so. It is not an easy business. But any failings I encounter do not deter me from engaging in what are difficult, and sometimes uncomfortable, scenarios. In life, occasionally one has to just get on and perform tasks that one finds unnerving and unpleasant. That is what is expected of me. But once again, it does not put me off, as more often than not my superiors have been pleased with my results.

In this employ, the opinions and viewpoints I put across may well not reflect my own. Often, they go against everything I believe in, but I have to maintain them in a believable and reasonable way for the success of the assignment. Often I’ve ended up feeling physically sick and terrified, but elated, after the execution of my duties. It is not easy, believe me, to maintain a consistently credible facade whilst trying to persuade committed minds that I am something I am not, or that the concepts I ply them with are not only more enlightening than their own, but more important.

So why do I do it? I know that to take someone out of their contrived comfort zone by the power of suggestion, if only for a few minutes, can leave behind profound differences in that person’s psychological make-up. But more importantly, with each confrontational concept I represent, or impassioned presentation I offer, they become more susceptible to the efforts of others in my field. And slowly but surely, under the barrage of my efforts and of those far more skilled in these arts than I, the ingrained perspective of what humans insist they know is either altered, or at least the seeds of intellectual transformation are planted. Either way, it’s a positive result.

Do I have a conscience about this manipulative activity? No. Not at all. Someone has to do it, and I’m glad I have the opportunity.

reply to post by Beamish

Beamish I feel uneasy about your last post.you said this

In this employ, the opinions and viewpoints I put across may well not reflect my own. Often, they go against everything I believe in, but I have to maintain them in a believable and reasonable way for the success of the assignment. Often I’ve ended up feeling physically sick and terrified, but elated, after the execution of my duties. It is not easy, believe me, to maintain a consistently credible facade whilst trying to persuade committed minds that I am something I am not, or that the concepts I ply them with are not only more enlightening than their own, but more important.

So this means you admitt to getting paid to lie while acusing me of doing it for free

reply to post by smokingman2006


Take from the post what you will.

And where does it say, precisely, I lie for a living?

reply to post by smokingman2006


Your words old friend

In this employ, the opinions and viewpoints I put across may well not reflect my own. Often, they go against everything I believe in,

Please explain what you would call this, I would call you a spin-doctor

reply to post by smokingman2006


Have you U2U this guy?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If this isnt fear mongering I dont know what is! Im all for free speach but honestly "reptilian queens blowing up the Earth" unbelievable .

They also told me the reptilian queens have threatened to explode the world if benevolent races from outside interfere. They told me they have the technology to blow up the entire earth and have even planted devices but they told me not to worry that if people were prepared to accept the help from the outside that they could easily stop them because there are more good out there than bad with much more advanced technology.

I have only read the OP as Im not going through 350 replies but do you chat to similar contactees on ATS? Have you thought about trying to contact similar people ? Have you been on this thread at all?

Has anyone else been on this thread?



[edit on 8-2-2009 by Mr Green]

reply to post by Mr Green

Good afternoon Madame Green.

I never Heard of this thread before and I dont know the poster.

I dont post on many threads at all here on ATS apart from my own.

after a quick search I think david Ickie has got to this person mind.

Did you read my posting from last night asking to try and keep this thread on a positive course as the Vibe have not been good the last few day here.

Please read it and see what I said.
Regards SM

Originally posted by smokingman2006
[I never Heard of this thread before and I dont know the poster.

I dont post on many threads at all here on ATS apart from my own.

after a quick search I think david Ickie has got to this person mind.

Did you read my posting from last night asking to try and keep this thread on a positive course as the Vibe have not been good the last few day here.

Please read it and see what I said.
Regards SM

Youve never heard of this poster. He also has a message from the Pleiadeans in which reptile queens have placed bombs around the world and that they will detonate these if the Pleiadeans intervien. Dont you think this is of relevance to you. You dont think it important to contact others who have had messages from these aliens?

Why dont you all form like a contact group or something, that way you can help each other.

Im sorry I find it amazing that you havent spoken to other messengers on ATS when the subject is to save the world.

What post are you referring to above. I replied very positively to your recent post and if this is not of a "good vibe" then I dont know what is. Did you even read my reply to you

I had noticed that you dont post on other threads much but I didnt want to mention it. Dont you think this limits your understanding a little. Do you read other threads at all?

reply to post by Mr Green


Sorry my puter went mad and then I lost this site.

As beamish correctly stated awhile back I have refused all main stream attemps to surface publicly with my encounter, I want to play it safe and see if what has been told to me becomes fact.

Before going full trot.

I read alot of threads but limit my postings and spend alot of my time thinking and sorting my inner feeling about this whole experience.
Apart from the member who U2U me I seek out no-one as I feel I must first understand myself better before talking to others who have similar stories.
Thank you for the nice coments on the Vibes posting now let me go look for the other one I did late last night calling for a peace on this thread

Found it here it is
To all the readers of this thread

Today I decided to take a little time away from this board and evaluate my commitment to this encounter I came to the decision that the hard love some of these posters are throwing my way is just part of what one can come to expect when the story is stranger than fiction.

There is no madness in my family and no royal blue blood floating through my veins.

I have kept some information and encounters of the boards but surely this is not a crime.

I too have been trying to process this information and experience to understand in which way it is best to use but there are no reference guide to use here so I have to act on judgment.

My story is off the wall and 6 month ago I too would have reacted in the very same way as some poster have if not worst.

Then again 6 month ago I would never have even come to a site such as this.

So I see both side of the argument here and can understand the anger as well.

This all said I am here to stay at least till I see for myself if what has been told to me is correct.


The name calling on this thread has to stop not only is it uncalled for it only increases the negative vibes and belittles us all.

I need no one to take my side here only read about my experience and give your honest view as to what you think in a constructive way if possible.

I am not after fame or attention quiet to opposite if you really knew me.

As for being a hoaxer what is the point? Have I ever ask for anything?

Have I ever contact any one of you posters out there by U2U first?

I shun the limelight like a vampire shuns the sunlight and I have my own reason here.( No I don't believe in Vampires)

I have only told a small potion of my total experience because I too believe that certain things should happen before I can tell the rest as some of the things I have been shown are beyond thinking about and keep me up at night.

I really hope that what has been shown to me is not part of our future and that I will be wrong.

But if it is then I will be ready to move ahead.

I will depart with a question for you all to think about
One day may it be 3 years or 3000 years this beautiful planet of ours will cease to exist either by our sun going Super Nova or some other reason.

Do you really believe that all the energy sources (soul) would vanish forever or would we all be reborn at the creation level to follow other paths and experiences perhaps even into the bodies of those we today call Aliens.

Now if we truly believe in this 3 years or 3000 years makes little difference.

Creation has the master plan and we human only have the time it has allocated for us to reach our goals if we have fallen behind in those goal then there is no-one to negotiate with for more time.

If creation feeds and grows on positive energy than you could say that at this present point in time we are in serious overdraft.
Bidding you all a good night.
SM


[edit on 8-2-2009 by smokingman2006]

Originally posted by smokingman2006


Did you read my posting from last night asking to try and keep this thread on a positive course as the Vibe have not been good the last few day here.

Please read it and see what I said.
Regards SM

yes I have read this post, it is a different one from the one I responded positively too. However I still dont understand why me questioning if you've U2U another Pleiadean messenger is not keeping this thread on a positive course. I think this course of questioning is VERY relevant to this thread in a positive way.

I must say I find his OP unbelievable but thats not the point. The point is he is another bringer of insight from your contacts. YOUR contacts and the fact you havent even spoke to him I find hard to understand.

Can I ask you this then? Do you believe his story? Do you believe he was contacted by the same race as you? and if so why do you not speak to him?

Do you know anything about reptile queens planting devices all over the world because this is the first Ive heard of it. can you not read these words and think how unbelievable they sound?

Im NOT being negative by asking these questions. They are very valid points I am making here and if you disagree with me then Im sorry.
When I was visited by my green friend I searched endlessly to find others accounts of such beings, if Id have seen another on thread speaking of the same encounter Id have U2U them immediatly. Do you see my point here?

reply to post by smokingman2006


Thank you for the nice coments on the Vibes posting

Your welcome. I found it a very good post.

Hi again my Green friend.

I have read but never comented on this reptile so call agenda it reminds me of that TV series "V" I watched as a teenager I detect no vibes that pull me into this reptile business,

I have enough serious posters who share with me far better experience I did search the internet after my first encounter made afew contact but most wanted something in return and that to me is a turn off.

Originally posted by smokingman2006
Hi again my Green friend.

I have read but never comented on this reptile so call agenda it reminds me of that TV series "V" I watched as a teenager I detect no vibes that pull me into this reptile business,

yes it does indeed remind me of that series too.

So his reptile vibes dont pull you in, this I can understand, but Im still struggling with the fact his message is also from the pleiadeans. Are you saying they give different message out to different people?

I can also understand why you would need time to gather your own thoughts before speaking to others but how long can you go on with "this" alone. Dont you find you need to talk to others that have actually had contact with these beings also? If indeed they have had contacts at all.

What did the others contacts want in return from you?

[edit on 8-2-2009 by Mr Green]

reply to post by Beamish


While I also suspect you are paid to disinform or change opinions on threads, and see a couple of members here in particular as being the good cop/bad cop duo, which is amusing to see because on many threads there is just one that comes on, so SM's must have merited more effort, just one of my opinions, mind you.

Still, seeing this in writing, from you no less, makes me feel you're pulling everyones leg here somehow.

So which is, the truth, or an attempt at humor?

Whether this is an assignment, or a personal attempt to continually mess with the exchange of information on a thread, you must realize that in doing so you are depriving people of their basic freedom of expression, exchanging information , and analyzing more information that can be compared against their own, if they are experiencers. You do realize that, for the many who have gone through expereinces, and who are constantly ridiculed for bringing forth this information, they are actually extremely angry that there is a massive campaign to shut down this exchange of information because it has to go out in whatever means necessary, with or without proof, with testimony alone if necessary, and it has to draw together a larger group who also can testify, until people GET WHAT"S GOING ON and actually kick out their leaders who are part and parcel of the situation.

In mine, my message is, in the year of 1967(8) there were nazis working with your US cabal, (ie. these guys would have been talking to all of the presidents) and the greys, kidnapping kids and whole families and messing with them. The war ended in the 40s. If enough people become aware of how messed their political system is, we will have changes and the leaders will be removed! I'm all for that.

So, if you're not having fun at our expense right now, and making up this elaborate story, which just happens to coincide with what many have been feeling, then you are selling the human race out! This is intellectual prostitution. This is the same question I've asked myself over and over, how could all the brightest and best minds amongst us, our scientist, and specialists, people who should definately have a clue about life itself, be so willing to sell themselves out to the twisted psychos at the top, what??? for an increased salary, a more yuppie house??? How do they rationalize it, this intellectual prostitution and selling the human race out?