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Originally posted by Alien_Question
Paul, I understand how your trying to reason it all out in your head to make sense of how the grays run the so called business but for the record:
Out of the large majority of abduction cases and on-going abduction cases including military officials that have come forward that have worked with the grays and know what capabilities they have, they have all stated that the grays have the capabilities that I have listed above.
Originally posted by Alien_Question
Bob Lazar has other stories he shared with me as well when I met with him and John Lear a while back but I don’t believe he has put them on a website because they were personal and private experiences, he had direct contact with the grays!
Originally posted by Alien_Question
I wish I could agree with you that the grays are nothing more than weak dummies with laser beams but I can't.
Originally posted by Alien_Question
If your philosophy is true,
Grays have only beam paralysis capability,
Originally posted by Alien_Question
They go after the weak,
Originally posted by Alien_Question
They pick locks and drag people out of bed,
They drug people,
They can easily be killed with a gun,
Originally posted by Alien_Question
Out of all the abduction cases don't you think many would have killed or at least captured a few of them by now?
Originally posted by Alien_Question
If the only threatening weapon they have is a paralysis stun gun or laser beam then wouldn't they be nothing less to us than your average Joe criminal breaking into a house?
Originally posted by Alien_Question
How in the world could they last as long as they have with just a laser beam?
Originally posted by Alien_Question
If the grays are as you say don't you think the militaries of the world would have them under control by now?
Originally posted by Alien_Question
I'm reasoning with you and trying to see where your coming from when you believe that their only power is a laser beam and memory implant?
Originally posted by Alien_Question
So your basically saying all of these people in the thousands with legitimate abduction cases have all been memory implanted to believing that the grays have special technology and skills when in fact they do not?
Originally posted by Alien_Question
All of their original experiences were changed from them being drugged, dragged out of bed to telepathic paralysis, floating through walls into a spaceship etc?
Originally posted by Alien_Question
I know it’s easier for us humans to reason like you are because it makes sense and sounds more believable that they broke in our front door, drugged us and dragged us out of bed but we are talking about an ET group from another star system millions of light years away!
(Far more advanced than anything we can even comprehend!)
Originally posted by Alien_Question
Do you think all of the military officials that work with the grays have been brainwashed by them as well? But how did they do it with just laser beams if that‘s all they have? I'm trying to understand your reasoning here!
Originally posted by Alien_Question
I'm sure there is more to the story then just laser beam paralysis and FYI they don't need laser beams to parlayze someone, they can do it by thought!
Originally posted by Alien_Question
There is a lot of info out there and I've been studying it for many years but I’m always interested in hearing some new cases and theories so if you have some examples of abductees with stories please share them. I would like to hear about the:
Picking locks,
Drugging victims,
Dragging them out of bed etc etc etc.
Originally posted by Alien_Question
In many of these type cases you may be mixing them up with the government infiltrating the grays for their own abductions and experiments. I hear this goes on alot and it makes sense that a human could only pick the lock, drug the victim and drag them out of bed so this would be the military and they do have reverse-engineered ET technology and paralysis beams so sounds (Believable.)
Originally posted by Alien_Question
Thanks!
Originally posted by Alien_Question
There is no need for the paralysis beam and they do not drag abductees out of bed! Paralysis beams are usually only used from the space craft!(Based on at least 85% of reported cases)
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
You know, inductive and deductive reasoning are excellent tools for uncovering the truth.
You should try using them sometime.
[edit on 1-7-2008 by Paul_Richard]
Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by gumby51
Ok so tell us what your ridiculous and fictitious crap that you believe in...... doesn't feel so good does it, shooting off like that to other people you are dismissive too.
You really think Paul would spend his time typing out all that info just for kicks, I seriously doubt it.
Then again convincing someone as dissmissive as yourself is impossible so maybe I shouldnt expect miracles, unless you can provide one.
Originally posted by Drakiir
The funny thing is that here you are saying that Paul is wrong and yet there are billions of planets out there that could have the very thing he is talking about on them right now.
I could say walking fish could exist and technically it isn't garbage because we haven't explored all those billions of planets to find out if they do.
Originally posted by Drakiir
So where is all that proof to prove Paul wrong, all you have to say is Im open to the possibility
[edit on 2-7-2008 by Drakiir]
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
You know, inductive and deductive reasoning are excellent tools for uncovering the truth.
You should try using them sometime.
Originally posted by gumby51
This coming from the guy who beleives in Reptilians and ancient nuclear wars on Earth.
J. Robert Oppenheimer, (1904–1967) the Supervising Scientist of the Manhattan Project was giving a lecture at Rochester University seven years after the first atomic weapon was successfully detonated. After his lecture he opened the floor to a period of questions and answers.
One student asked: “Was the bomb exploded at Alamogordo during the Manhattan Project the first one to be detonated?”
Dr. Oppenheimer’s answer was short but extremely telling. Dr. Oppenheimer said: “Well – yes. In modern times, of course.”
Dr. Oppenheimer years earlier had described what he was thinking when he witnessed the first modern atomic explosion. His thoughts had gone to the Hindu Bhagvad Gita which states:
"Of a thousand suns in the sky if suddenly should burst forth the light, it would be like unto the light of that Exalted One.” (Bhagvad Gita XI, 12)
“Death am I, cause of destruction of the worlds, matured and set out to gather in the worlds there." (Bhagvad Gita XI, 32)
However, in answering the question Dr. Oppenheimer was not referring to the Hindu Bhagvad Gita but rather an ancient Indian text known as the Mahabharata. That which had occurred in Japan in 1945 was reminiscent of a far more ancient episode, one as early as 2450 BC in the regions of the upper Ganges.
Originally posted by ET_CONTACT
You and Paul are both wrong and I don't belive your story. Those of us who have first hand knowledge of what the greys are really capable of know better.
Originally posted by Alien_Question
I'm sure there is more to the story then just laser beam paralysis and FYI they don't need laser beams to parlayze someone, they can do it by thought!
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Well then, by all means...they should do that to me as soon as possible
How about tonight?
...Still waiting for them to walk through walls or teleport me on to their spacecraft.
Hey pal...consider that a challenge
Are you game?
More importantly, are they?
I doubt it.