Fight Club Pub.

Originally posted by MemoryShock
I don't like feeling intellectually challenged...

How big is Mr. Shock's ego?

Originally posted by americandingbat
How big is Mr. Shock's ego?

reply to post by schrodingers dog


Oh, how pretty.

Pink is such a flattering color, and that's a horn a man can brag about.



[edit on 2/17/2009 by skeptic1]

reply to post by skeptic1


Horn/Corn, it's aaaaall good!

reply to post by schrodingers dog


That wasn't how I pictured him at all, but he is pretty. It takes a helluva man to pull off all that pink.

:shk:

I do not understand the difference between the 5 references and the 10 sentences of external source material. I know I am brain fried just now,

"We are such stuff as dreams are made of, and our little life is rounded with a sleep."

"He that is giddy thinks the world turns round." (Shakespeare)

See what I mean?

reply to post by skeptic1


I would bring back his old avatar, but I fear my debate future would most certainly suffer the consequences.

And I personally cant see the horn for the , whatever it is under the stallion... is that smoke or what?

reply to post by antar

All right guys...take it to the cryptozoology forum...

I don't like feeling... challenged...

Originally posted by antar
I do not understand the difference between the 5 references

This refers to the amount of links you may use in a post (opening and closing are 3 links). Using a link does not necessitate that you provide sentences from that link. You could just be showing where you found the birth date of an historical figure (something you should have done for your first post... )

and the 10 sentences of external source material. I know I am brain fried just now,

10 sentences that are not your own from a link, placed with ex tags. Unlike the links rule...all sentences sourced externally must be accompanied by a link.

Hope this helps...

reply to post by MemoryShock


Frankly the rules are a little confusing. I tried to summarize them, but just deleted my post because I didn't think it was clear enough.

I think the multiple-links from the same site count as one reference thing should only apply if the links are identical, or point to the same document. Otherwise, it's abusable. For example, to circumvent the 5-reference rule: link to the archive.org wayback machine for two or more links, then they only (technically!) count as one reference.

Ok think I Understand... Wish I had sourced my first link to the usual first search in the first post.

reply to post by MemoryShock


Ok so if you go to a site which has multipal pdf files within the link, do you have to site each individual pdf file and its date of reference or just the original site and then give the pdf with the external tag?

reply to post by antar


We should probably change the 'reference/link' terminology to "URL".

Does that help?

Ian: I know. My debate against TruthWithin two tournaments ago got snarky and resulted in it dawning on me that a wiki page...though one link/url...can contain many many links which one almost needs to look at to substantiate the wiki page beyond the "Edit at will" feature...he accused me of trying to get an extra link by him so I retorted that he was trying to get twenty by me...

That was a fun debate...

Originally posted by Ian McLean
reply to post by MemoryShock

 

Frankly the rules are a little confusing. I tried to summarize them, but just deleted my post because I didn't think it was clear enough.

I think the multiple-links from the same site count as one reference thing should only apply if the links are identical, or point to the same document.

I was told earlier that my pdf's each would count as a separate link, even though they came from the same web page and were each chapters of a single document (albeit a several-thousand-page document).

On the other hand, I've used wikipedia links before and counted them all as one source, even though they were separate wikipedia pages. And I'm pretty sure I've seen others do this too.

Frankly, I think the source rules could use some clarification



edit: oops. I guess if I'm understanding Mr. Shock correctly, that I've been cheating in my use of wikipedia I think one of my links from my opening in this debate will have to go. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure my opponent went over his 10-sentence limit and I didn't call him on it … This could get real snarky real fast)

[edit on 2/18/09 by americandingbat]

reply to post by MemoryShock


That's the Welsh for you.

MemoryShock or Semper

If I quote where a definition is from, does that count as referencing information, or do I have to provide the links for it to count as a reference?

On my latest post I just stated where the information was from rather than referencing it...hope thats ok

I will be honest I have looked at dozens of sites to get the skinny on Shaksper, Most I did no more than speed read through until I found the main site I am getting all of the best info from which is an archive of thousands of references. I guess the worst that can happen is that I make a mistake, the best is that others become as inflamed with the information as I have.

Also how do I count 10,000 words? I use notepad to write and then bring it over to ats for the editing and spell check.

reply to post by americandingbat


QUICK! edit before frank gets the fuel he needs to win!