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Originally posted by d11_m_na_c05
reply to post by apc
So your saying its ok for the "rich responsible" (private schooled) cause there only doing it for the "right reasons"..?
Originally posted by photobug
What if what if what if. I don't live my life based on What if's and neither should you. Sure two parents at home is an ideal situation but the world does not follow a cookie cutter and the military is not the only place of employment that seperates children from their fathers. The fact that this kid has two parents, even if one is away, is still far better than those with deadbeat dads or moms. your argument of having two parents is totally off the issue and is another attempt to confuse the issue at hand.
Originally posted by photobug
How can you prove he was in Iraq? What kind of question is that. Have you ever heard of caller ID, Call logs etc. I'm sure that since this issue was dropped the parents were able to prove that he was indeed talking to his dad in Iraq.
Originally posted by photobug
I understand the resonings behind banning cell phone use in class. This incident could have been handled entirely differantly for a much better outcome. Do you really think the kid would blatently take a phone call in class if it was just a friend or perhaps your dealer.
Originally posted by photobug
The school jumped the gun on this without thought and I'm sure the principal was only doing what you would have done. The rule is no cell phone usage you broke that rule and thus are suspended. This is sheeple type talk here.
Originally posted by photobug
Obey your masters without any of your own thought, interpretation, or God given intelligence. The proper way to handle this would have been for the principal to explain the rule and then offer the student a chance to prove he was talking to his Father in Iraq. Hey if the kids lying suspend him and give him more time for lying but if hes telling the truth the issue should have been dropped. I don't think there would be any difficulty in proving the validity of the phone call especially in today day and age when they can trace your cell calls.
Originally posted by photobug
"Screw teaching, isnt their job hard enough already" Another attempt to confuse the issue. No one is debating whether a teachers job is hard or not. In answer to your question I think a Teachers job is made even harder having to deal with all this political crap. Our government tells teachers what they can teach and what they can not. Our Government tells the teachers how they should behave and how they should handle certain situations. The govenrment has taken away teaching from teachers and turned them into indoctrinators.
Originally posted by photobug
It reminds me of the argument about "why does God allow people do do this" It's becasue God understands that a level of resoning and free will is nessesary in life. All I am saying here is that this is not a black or white issue and should have been treated that way. God gave us a brain and the reasoning and logic to make good decisions. The school clearly did make a good decision in this case. In fact they made no decision at all!! They were only following their programming and that my friend is the problem.
Originally posted by photobug
"Hmm anyone care to help me out on how to use quotes this way? I seem to be missing a piece of code"
Originally posted by d11_m_na_c05
reply to post by photobug
Like i said . Give an inch and a mile you will lose. If its ok for this kid then it becomes ok for everyone . Will you have to prove there in Iraq? If so how?
[edit on 13-4-2008 by d11_m_na_c05]
Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by palehorse23
This is DISGRACEFUL. What if, god forbid, that was the last time he could have spoken with his dad because he was KIA? How would that child be able to function knowing that?
Originally posted by jfj123
Schools have started living in a black and white world and it just doesn't work. Soldiers and families of soldiers are making incredible sacrifices and they should be given some flexibility on our parts-THAT IS THE LEAST WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM. Failing that, those school officials should pick up a weapon and stand at post or shut the hell up! It's easy to peddle their silly little myopic rules from their comfy, climate controlled offices. I'd like to see those jerks try doing their jobs from a foxhole or behind a pile of sandbags while bullets are flying around them.
Those school officials attitudes are exactly what is wrong with this country.
Originally posted by Methuselah
reply to post by photobug
YES! someone with a brain. I too second this with all of who I am.
to comment on the other ignorant posts....
Originally posted by Methuselah
either you have never served or you dont have kids... or both... or you just dont know what love is about.
Originally posted by Methuselah
whats makes a soldier/airman/sailor or marine father more important than the others? it may be the last phone call they can ever make. that conversation may be their last.
Originally posted by Methuselah
im actually over here in Iraq as we speak and I tell you what, there has been well over 100 deaths within the past 4 months...
what is he hadnt answered the phone and then found out his father died a few hours later because his tent got bombed? how would you feel? put yourself in their shoes.
Originally posted by Methuselah
freedom is not free, so all you people who chose not to support the our freedom... you can get the heck out of my country! someones gotta serve. if he doesnt, then who will? that goes for everyone else in the DoD. if they dont do it, who will? is there not a cause?
Originally posted by Methuselah
so what happened if there was no one to defend our freedom? ... let me help you with this one.... we wouldnt be as free as we are.
Originally posted by Methuselah
get over yourselves and understand that without people like this father, myself and the other thousands serving, you probably wouldnt be living so comfortably.
Originally posted by photobug
reply to post by d11_m_na_c05
Thanks for the quote info. I'll try that next time.
Originally posted by d11_m_na_c05
Originally posted by Methuselah
reply to post by photobug
YES! someone with a brain. I too second this with all of who I am.
to comment on the other ignorant posts....
Awesome way to start a post . care to clarify who you think is ignorant?
Originally posted by Methuselah
either you have never served or you dont have kids... or both... or you just dont know what love is about.
Prove that statement please. I want this magic mind reading power too :/
Originally posted by Methuselah
whats makes a soldier/airman/sailor or marine father more important than the others? it may be the last phone call they can ever make. that conversation may be their last.
Same goes for EVERYONE on the darn planet my friend. They volunteered.!! Period!
Originally posted by Methuselah
im actually over here in Iraq as we speak and I tell you what, there has been well over 100 deaths within the past 4 months...
what is he hadnt answered the phone and then found out his father died a few hours later because his tent got bombed? how would you feel? put yourself in their shoes.
Not my problem . Why should my kids not get to learn with all the distractions cause some dope signed up for a war ..
[edit on 13-4-2008 by d11_m_na_c05]