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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by gmac1000
where did you prove this?? I disagree
I have proven it twice in last post. I will be posting more to suport what i post.
[edit on 18-3-2008 by ULTIMA1]
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by Disclosed
So...when that site said "a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence", they were what....lying?
No, it depends on the evidence, like the second example i showed about blood evidence.
Originally posted by Spaxz
reply to post by jfj123
So Op have you done your research on Building 7 ? Cause everyone who argues the point that the offical report is correct won't touch this question.
People from alot of nations died in those attacks and each country should have been allowed to do there own investigation. The only reason they weren't allowed is cause there's something to hide, what i don't know.
Originally posted by Spaxz
reply to post by jfj123
So Op have you done your research on Building 7 ? Cause everyone who argues the point that the offical report is correct won't touch this question.
Please anyone answer this question! Cause just one fallacy in the report should trigger a new investigation by a third party...say like Japan.
People from alot of nations died in those attacks and each country should have been allowed to do there own investigation. The only reason they weren't allowed is cause there's something to hide, what i don't know.
youtube.com...
The Youtube Video button wouldn't work so i just copied and pasted it on here. Please watch and explain why there not allowed to investigate there own civilian deaths
The final report on the collapses of WTC 1 and 2 was issued on Oct. 26, 2005. The investigation of the collapse of WTC 7 will be completed in 2008.
Originally posted by jfj123
Spaxz
As a follow up, the NIST's final report for WTC building 7 has not been complete yet.
The final report on the collapses of WTC 1 and 2 was issued on Oct. 26, 2005. The investigation of the collapse of WTC 7 will be completed in 2008.
www.nist.gov...
I'm looking at getting an interim report and will let you know what I find.
Originally posted by plasmacutter
in response to the guy that said th cutt was made with a welder in order for it to be cutt by a welder would have to be done fromm the inside of the beam a troch blows the slag away from the top of the plate u r cuttin so acording to u some one was standing inside the beam dout it,the slag (if someone was cutting from the outside of the beam the slag would be along the inside sorry thats gravity a cutting torch heats metal then u (the cutter operating the torch blows air to the molten metal and the blows the molten metal away, so no i wasnt sutt from the outside with a torch sorry
Originally posted by Disclosed
If there is evidence, then there is no lack of evidence.
Common themes in their statements thus far: evidence, specifically the lack of it, and witnesses, specifically their lack of credibility.
Reasonable Doubt: A real doubt, based upon reason and common sense after careful and impartial consideration of all the evidence, or lack of evidence, in a case.
Originally posted by jfj123
Spaxz
As a follow up, the NIST's final report for WTC building 7 has not been complete yet.
Originally posted by gmac1000
So that leaves expolsives that must of been pre arranged..Maybe during the first ever WTC power down 3 weeks prior to the collapes?:?
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by jfj123
Spaxz
As a follow up, the NIST's final report for WTC building 7 has not been complete yet.
How can NIST do a final report on Building 7 when they did not recover any steel from buidling 7 to test ?
[edit on 18-3-2008 by ULTIMA1]
Collapse of WTC 7 – Working Hypothesis
NIST is interested in determining why and how the 47-story WTC 7 building, a more typical tall building, collapsed even though it was not directly hit by an aircraft.
The NIST investigation team has formulated the following chronological sequence of major events leading to the eventual collapse of WTC 7:
* An initial local failure at the lower floors (below Floor 13) of the building due to fire and/or debris induced structural damage of a critical column (the initiating event), which supported a large span floor bay with an area of about 2,000 square feet.
* Vertical progression of the initial local failure up to the east penthouse, as large floor bays were unable to redistribute the loads, bringing down the interior structure below the east penthouse.
* Horizontal progression of the failure across the lower floors (in the region of Floors 5 and 7, that were much thicker than the rest of the floors), triggered by damage due to the vertical failure, resulting in the disproportionate collapse of the entire structure.
The working hypothesis is consistent with all evidence currently held by NIST, including photographs and videos, eyewitness accounts and emergency communication records.
Based on a review of the fuel system for emergency power in WTC 7, Floor 5 – which did not have any exterior windows and contained the only pressurized fuel distribution system on the south, west and north floor areas – is considered a possible fire initiation location, subject to further data and/or analysis that improve knowledge of fire conditions in this area.
Exposition:
An appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence.