Divided views as US fence goes up

Originally posted by dnodnodno
Hey guys, over there in good ol usa, ever think that maybe and just maybe its being constructed to keep people IN

I don't see any problem here. There is no mass exodus for people wanting to flee the country. Why would then need to keep us here with a fence? People love living in the US, thats why all the people are trying to get here. Should check us out some time its nice here

What's been termed as 'keeping people in' may not immediately become obvious.

Like I said in a post on page 2, the reality of the fence may be something completely different when you consider the possible future implications of this recent thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

I can just see it now.. a driver arrives at the fence from th USA on his way to Mexico.

'officer', Your papers please.
'driver',, yes sire, there you are.
'officer', and what's the purpose of your visit to Mexico? business, pleasure or health?
'driver', oh, just pleasure. want to go see the setting sun from a different point of view.
'officer', why is your face swollen?
'driver', ah, slight problem with a tooth, nothing to worry about.
'officer', one moment, I'm going to scan your RFID chip... it appears you've not been to a doctor for five years or seen a dentist in two years. Under the Patriot act 2009 edition, I refuse your entry to Mexico as I believe you are going there for health purposes. The act clearly states that all health matters are to be dealt with by the state. Turn around and go home.

it's a possibility.

reply to post by sputniksteve


No people do not love living in the US. Its a necessity for most illegal immigrants. They would much rather live in their home countries.

Why would we be fenced in? Use your brain. For your own safety, or perceived safety.

I'd rather be dead than 'safe' from everything. We are a fascist state at this point and if you can't see it I'm sorry.

I for one do not love the US and plan on moving as soon as I can.

Speak for yourself next time.

[edit on 2/3/2008 by biggie smalls]

i guess illegal aliens who think that they should be able to get drunk in public shoot guns at weddings piss on the tree in fromt of there house when they want. who think they should be able to joim a gang like ms13 and smuggle drugs and shoot at people to make some easy money would like mexico better. but for people who dont want to live like that or around that think us is a pretty good place even though it cost more.

i guess i shouldnt be so point blank in what i said but the truth some times hurt and angers.

i admit the us has laws that dont make since i admit theres laws i dont like but there made because society usually made them because of a problem getting out of control . now that the goverment is getting out of control there will be some changes to the law to check and ballance them back into control. bush knows his time is numbered why do you think hes bought all that property in south america and jeb bush left a while ago bushs daughter already got her job in south america. when hes out of office and loses his control watch him run for the border. nancy pelosi wont be able to protect him then.

the us has major changes coming in the future and i hope there for the better but after bush anything will probly be better.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
Sounds a lot like East Germany, walling in the civilians...

Why do we want to keep people out so badly?

Are you kidding me? East Germany? We have people coming into our country illegally, without any sort of checks or documentation. That's an invasion in itself.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
Why don't we actually improve the quality of life in Central and South America so people won't have to immigrate here? Wow, that's a novel idea ain't it..

So you want the government to use tax dollars paid by U.S. Citizens for their own protection (whether that's the effect or not) on other countries? Are you kidding me?

Probably not, because we already spend billions on other countries that can't even properly set up infrastructure or efficient government.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
I'd rather be dead than 'safe' from everything. We are a fascist state at this point and if you can't see it I'm sorry.

...Do you even know what fascism is...? The United States is nowhere close to that.

My biggest concerns with the United States right now are twofold. One is economic liberty - there seems be strong corporatist and socialist influences within our representatives (especially the Democratic Party, but not limited to it). Two, our right to bear arms. Places like Washington D.C. that have a total ban on firearms... Let's hope the Supreme Court votes the right way on that case.

But comparatively, we're doing quite well.



My biggest question is whether or not the wall will actually keep people out. We have a responsibility to protect our country, and by letting millions of illegals run right through our border is failing it. That doesn't mean shooting people or anything - it just means regulating who and what comes through.

If we can't control that, are we even a country anymore?

Originally posted by biggie smalls
reply to post by sputniksteve

 

No people do not love living in the US. Its a necessity for most illegal immigrants. They would much rather live in their home countries.

Why would we be fenced in? Use your brain. For your own safety, or perceived safety.

I'd rather be dead than 'safe' from everything. We are a fascist state at this point and if you can't see it I'm sorry.

I for one do not love the US and plan on moving as soon as I can.

Speak for yourself next time.

[edit on 2/3/2008 by biggie smalls]

See you later! And you are also speaking for all immigrants supposedly, kind of like I spoke for all people living here. Obviously there are going to be exceptions for both groups. Just because you hate the country doesn't mean all immigrants do. I welcome all people living here that hate it too move. I know I certainly would if that was the way I felt. No one is forcing you to stay.