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Originally posted by Odium
Even if you own a business and it gets taxed 40%, that tax doesn't get taken directly from the owner. Say the company makes: $100.
Out of that 100, 40 is taken as tax. Thus you are left with 60 to pay all of the workers. If you were not taxed that 40% your work force would expect higher pay, so on and so fourth. Thus you don't loose 40% there are so many other things to take into account and you refuse to do that to try and make your point.
You did nothing but to change your arguement as soon as you were proven wrong you change it.
Italy is at roughly 7%, according to the National Institute of Statistic.
Explain why it was fine for over 600 years than? Why did it suddenyl change when people started to get laws to make it change...odd that. What a lucky break for you. That the same moment people made laws reguarding working conditions they got better, of course when there were no laws and we lived under extreme capitalism nothing changed - the rich got richer, we slaved in farms for them but they never changed things.
Indeed - which is why social programs to remove child poverty changed things. It wasn't the laws to stop children from working, nor was it the rich, it was placing a burden on parents (and thus forcing them in many reguards to have less children), along with a free education, etcetera that changed things.
It was the education (which was given to all) that allowed children to escape having to work. Not the child labour laws.
Why do so many groups not live like this? I can go on and on.
Fact is, capitalism isn't human nature. They do not go hand-in-hand with one another, there are thousands of instances of large scale groups (in the hundreds) happily sharing everything. Capitalism is a product of socialization.
Why is South Korea below:
Italy.
The United Kingdom
France.
I can go on and on.
I think you'll find Sweden also has a higher Per-Capita Income than Japan does. Japan is in fact 20th in the World in this reguard, below a lot of Nations with National Health Care and Poverty schemes. (International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook Database, April 2007)
Tell that to those in Norway who on average earn: $28,000 more in Norway than you do in the USA. In fact the USA only has a $2000 more Per-Capita Income than Sweden does.
Lie.
Sweden emerged as a welfare state, consistently achieving a high position among the top-ranking countries in the UN Human Development Index (HDI). Sweden has a rich supply of water power, but lacks significant oil and coal deposits.
Which is why you have no understanding of what I suggest. So don't assume you do.
Originally posted by WheelsRCool
Oh, they need their defending, or else we can turn into France, where all the wealthy there are leaving because they tax them 80% of their income.
Very true, but a good deal of them should be eliminated. That in itself will eliminate poverty a good deal because it will force people to get off their butts and start working.
But right now, we have way too many social programs, and usually working-class Americans do not qualify for most of them.
You know a lot of teenage girls get pregnant specifically because the State will provide them with free healthcare and free education even, and other free stuff.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Best of luck getting into that tax bracket sport. You're gonna need it.
Again, I have to remind you here, there are alot of people who are incapable of managing themselves. There are alot of people out there with alot of complex problems that a checkwriting-managing course won't get near fixing.
I think more than you realize.
You got proof to back that statement up?
That is absolute crap. Im not saying girls don't do that sometimes, cos I know they do (to get out of war for example - like during the Gulf War which I was in). But those girls are a shred or a hair thin fragment of our society. By and large people want to earn their own way.
Sorry if people you know or are related to are scamming on the system. It hurts people who really need the help.
Originally posted by WheelsRCool
I think you mis-understand a couple things though. For one, this is the United States of America. It is very possible to get into that income bracket, you just have to be willing to work hard. Nothing magical to it.
Secondly, that income bracket is not the area solely of the super-rich; it generally starts at someone making an income of $300,000 a year. $300,000 a year is what many doctors, lawyers, etc...make, which is far from impossible, and then there's the much higher incomes.
And regardless, even if you are not a member of that income bracket, you should still be against taxing it highly for the following reasons: