Space Serpents and other Craft Secrets

Ancient planes in Colombia



Hi,

Man made UFOs are not something of the recent past.

Aviones precolombinos? (pre-Colombian planes)

References:
. www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
. www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

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Related to Serpents



Hi,

I found this video related to Serpents and o think that I should share with you, the music is also nice.

Secrets of The Serpent

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Brighter than a Thousand Suns




Hi,

One reference on Saucers made by Germans in WWII repeated often is about the book “Brighter than a Thousand Suns” by Robert Jungk, which describes the history of the Atom Bomb.

Alleged, in a foot note (page 87) appears a reference to the Germans WWII Saucers, but some disagree and I have a Portuguese edition of the book and I could not find any foot note about the Saucers.

Robert Jungk foot note

More references:
. www.members.tripod.com...
. www.members.tripod.com...
. www.magonia.demon.co.uk...
. en.wikipedia.org...
. alsos.wlu.edu...
. werner-heisenberg.unh.edu...

Has any ATS Member the English or other edition and could verify that? And post here a scan of that page.

Thank you.

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Images and Russian translation

Hi,

One image is not seen anymore in a previous post, so here is she:

Post More on Near Space Vehicles


Related to saucers aircrafts, MastaG started to post a Russian translation on an Antarctica/Byrd video, see more in this thread.

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Wow Brotherthebig, as usual you are a virtual encyclopaedia of info.Keep up the good work!Consider this thread flagged.

Thanks



Hi,

AccessDenied, thank you for the motivation and I also like your profound threads like The horrors of the War on Terror, very good and constructive comments from the members, well done!

To All, anyone has the book “Brighter than a Thousand Suns” and could help to clarify the footnote issue? Please see this previous post.

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Terror link and The Bell

Fly Trap/The Henge Base and Cooling Tower

Hi,

Sorry AccessDenied, was missing the link to your thread The horrors of the War on Terror, now works!

Also some post before we had referenced “The Bell” and Project Y2 from Avro, a subject discussed on another thread, but because we have new developments there, and sometimes what appears is not, if that subject is of your interest check the latest information and conclusions.

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Out of the Blue


Hi,

Another very good video on the subject is Out of the Blue. Is more than 1 hour, so if you prefer to download see more information and instructions here (at bottom of the page).

Out of the Blue (full)

Google Video Link

Out of the Blue (1/8)

Other parts are available in YouTube.

More references:
. www.outofthebluethemovie.com...
. www.presidentialufo.com...

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edit: video link

[edit on 2007/6/1 by brotherthebig]

I have seen the south american plane "evidence" before. I believe that the argument was summed up with:

I believe the very first video is space debris.
We have thousands of pieces of debris up there.
I do think its debris.
The tether incident is UFO Technology for sure

interesting!! hahah the first video scared me when they showed that pic of the grey out of nowhere i had it kinda loud too with my head phones on. hahaha the pic of that grey looks all myspaceish how cute! haha like self portrait

anyway good stuff

how come sometimes you can edit your posts and then sometimes you can't?

anyway... i was looking at more of the videos and stuff.. well i just am really hoping it's not some sort of living "giant worm" if this is found to be the case i think i will pee my pants.

the way it moves is soo worm like damn..it reminds me of that one video that dude posted that has yet to be analyzed.
i mean either way real big worm or not ...hella interesting but the thought of a live worm or even worm like creature that big lurking around space and the earth just ugh...the thing is i have this very bad phobia of worms and this is like a real big nightmare for me!

how come the nasa astronauts dont fly closer to it? if its even possible i don't know the capabilities of the shuttles and stuff. but yeah.

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Building a model

Hi,

Some prehistoric planes could be explained by fish with wings and other flying creatures, but not all, right?

About derbies, yes with have a lot in upper atmosphere but they don’t move like a worm or serpent, or at least the movement is very strange for a spacecraft.

One of the first to see and describe strange huge creatures was James Constable.

James Constable

UFO Amoeba type creature

UFO creatures

More references:
. www.philipcoppens.com...
. www.clearwisdom.net...
. www.newanimal.org...
. en.wikipedia.org...

A post could be edited in the first 2 hours, after that no.

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edit: edit info

[edit on 2007/6/4 by brotherthebig]

UFO in Russia at Kapustin Yar


Hi,

In Russia they also have UFOs and an Area 51 twin, just see this video here.

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UFO on Apollo 11


Hi,

NASA has also their UFOs records, in this video about Apollo 11 we could see some less known and "dramatic" facts including the UFO that traveled near them.

Apollo 11 The Untold Story

Google Video Link

More references:
. www.abovetopsecret.com...
. www.earthtimes.org...
. en.wikipedia.org...
. www.ufodata.co.uk...

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edit: link

[edit on 2007/6/13 by brotherthebig]

More videos, but…

Hi,

This time a video summary from other threads that cold be of interest, if so just join the discussions.

Avro Project Y2 and “The Bell” are they related? - Video: Thread Summary I

UFO: Antigravity or Coandă Effect man made saucers or aircrafts? – Video: Thread Summary I

Here you have the respective PDFs.

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Originally posted by Blackdude
Has anyone else noticed that in the tether inncident video all the UFO's flying around can not possibly be debris. For one thing, they all have the same physical features. They all have a hole in the middle with chips on the sides. Some of the UFOs have more chips on their sides than others do. I have seen other NASA space vids that show the same type of craft. I believe this is proof that these things are not only UFOs, but the fact that they all have the same design proves they were made by some kind of inteligents.

Yes I have noticed this LOL Unfortunately with so many threads people don't get the time to read them all...

As to the STS75 tether video... most people show the poor blurry copies that have the tether experiment removed. Also this video has gone through copyright issues so I would suggest you copy it while its back up at youtube

This is the high res original copy...

I want you to pay close attention to one of the "critters" A bright one that comes in an arc from the left, then as it goes off screen the astronaut zooms out to follow it as it changes direction and goes DOWN... Dust and debris will only move in a straight line, not an arc, not change direction. The fact that they zoom out to follow it means NASA is aware of them.

Notice mission control says the tether is "wider than expected" because it is still collecting plasma energy, which is what the swarming "critters" are feeding on...

No they are NOT UFO's in the normal sense... they are a lifeform that feeda on plasma, can be several miles in diameter and are harmless. They exist on the edge of visible light and NASA has know about them for a long time.

The term "Critter" was first used in 1954...

Here is the original video... keep a copy as it gets pulled a lot



Here are the Pegasus pages on "Critters"

landoflegends.us...
landoflegends.us...
landoflegends.us...
landoflegends.us...

Here are a couple "captures" from hi res videos for those to lazy to follow links Both the images below are from a set showing they change shape from frame to frame...





The old series Star Trek knew about these LOL
"The Immunity Syndrome"



In the final report on the incident NASA states that the tether continued to glow like a fluorescent tube until it was out of site...

The truth is out there... it just takes lots of hours of digging

Edit to add...

OOPS... as I said to many threads to keep track of seems I posted some of this already here Oh well back to digging

[edit on 5-7-2007 by zorgon]

Originally posted by brotherthebig
Brighter than a Thousand Suns
Alleged, in a foot note (page 87) appears a reference to the Germans WWII Saucers, but some disagree and I have a Portuguese edition of the book and I could not find any foot note about the Saucers.

Alleged
Well MAYBE if you got an ENGLISH version of the book it might help

Sooo... in the interest of sharing... Pegasus bought one from an antique book dealer... Below is the excerpt from page 87 "Brighter Than a Thousand Suns" by Robert Jungk published originally in German under the title "Heller als tausend Sonnen" English translation by James Cleugh 1958 First Edition

The first paragraph below is the context for the footnote...

The most important new weapon developed by the Germans during the war, the V2 long range rocket, came into use at a stage of the conflict when Germany's position had become quite desperate. The indifference of Hitler and those about im to research in natural science amounted to positive hostility (1) It had at a very early period cost the Fuhrer the good will of the physicists.

(1)
The only exception to the lack of interest shown by authority was contituted by the Air Ministry. The Air Force research workers were in a peculiar position. They produced interesting new types of aircraft such as the Delta (triangular) and "flying discs". The first of these"flying saucers" as they were later called - circular in shape, with a diameter of some 45 yards - were built by the specialists Schriever, Habermohl and Miethe. They were first airborne on February 14, 1945, over Prague and reached in three minutes a height of nearly eight miles. They had a flying speed of 1250 mph which was doubled in subsequent tests.

It is believed that after the war Habermohl fell into the hands of the Russians. Miethe developed at a later date similar "flying saucers" at A.V.Roe and Company for the United States


Okay so there you have it... thanks to Hitler being crazy and not listening to the scientists, Germany never finished the program. Since Hitler later ordered the scientists killed just before von Braun et all escaped we can see that we were pretty lucky in the timing of events

Eight miles high speed 2500 mph... 45 yards diameter... not bad for "non existent craft...

So it would seem the Avro Arrow really WAS just a cover up for the real work afterall! This book was well worth the money

hi thanks for putting this out, It was one of my favorites on youtube the 10th one was taken off heres the link if anyone wants to see it peace

www.dailymotion.com...

One more video server


Hi realpepper,

Thank you for the new video server. The full video that was available in this previous post is now here:

Google Video Link

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