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1) The Doctrine is Reality - The cult's beliefs allow no interpretation or other theories.
2) Reality is Black and White, Good Versus Evil - no outside group is valid, "no room for interpretation"
3) Elitist Mentality - they are the chosen ones.
4) Group Will Over Individual Will - "the self must submit to the group" "conformity is good".
5) Strict Obedience: Modeling the Leader - the leader is imitated by everyone.
6) Happiness through good performance - behaviors are controlled by shaming, competition.
7) Manipulation through fear and guilt - includes exit phobias, the devil, God, communism, etc. will hurt you.
8) Emotional highs and lows - from great productivity to crashing (due to individual's inadequacies).
9) Changes in Time Orientation - pre-cult life is bad, the present is crucial (pressure to meet quotas, etc.).
10) No Way Out - There is never a legitimate reason for leaving.
Originally posted by Thodeph
Looking for evidence for masonic children abuse, I found this description of what characterizes a cult.
The below excellent 10-point description of religious sects can be applied not only to Freemasons, *snip*
1) The Doctrine is Reality - The cult's beliefs allow no interpretation or other theories.
2) Reality is Black and White, Good Versus Evil - no outside group is valid, "no room for interpretation"
3) Elitist Mentality - they are the chosen ones.
4) Group Will Over Individual Will - "the self must submit to the group" "conformity is good".
5) Strict Obedience: Modeling the Leader - the leader is imitated by everyone.
6) Happiness through good performance - behaviors are controlled by shaming, competition.
7) Manipulation through fear and guilt - includes exit phobias, the devil, God, communism, etc. will hurt you.
8) Emotional highs and lows - from great productivity to crashing (due to individual's inadequacies).
9) Changes in Time Orientation - pre-cult life is bad, the present is crucial (pressure to meet quotas, etc.).
10) No Way Out - There is never a legitimate reason for leaving.
Originally posted by Thodeph
Looking for evidence for masonic children abuse, I found this description of what characterizes a cult.
The below excellent 10-point description of religious sects can be applied not only to Freemasons, but also to groups like the Maffia and the C.I.A., which are clandestine groups that are only hermetical in their ideological secrecy. In contrast with religious sects -- who are generally looking for a secluded life -- Freemasons, mob members and C.IA. are three groups that actively choose to infiltrate society to steer it in a desired direction.
Which is scary if you consider their features:
1) The Doctrine is Reality - The cult's beliefs allow no interpretation or other theories.
2) Reality is Black and White, Good Versus Evil - no outside group is valid, "no room for interpretation"
3) Elitist Mentality - they are the chosen ones.
4) Group Will Over Individual Will - "the self must submit to the group" "conformity is good".
5) Strict Obedience: Modeling the Leader - the leader is imitated by everyone.
6) Happiness through good performance - behaviors are controlled by shaming, competition.
7) Manipulation through fear and guilt - includes exit phobias, the devil, God, communism, etc. will hurt you.
8) Emotional highs and lows - from great productivity to crashing (due to individual's inadequacies).
9) Changes in Time Orientation - pre-cult life is bad, the present is crucial (pressure to meet quotas, etc.).
10) No Way Out - There is never a legitimate reason for leaving.
Originally posted by Thodeph
Looking for evidence for masonic children abuse...
Originally posted by poll5984
Seems to me that this list describes most religious groups also. I don't think the secret societies hold the monopoly on cult-like behaviour.
Originally posted by Akareyon
Id' like to add one point to the list:
11.) Denial - each member will be able to prove he's not part of a "cult" by any of these definitions.
Originally posted by Thodeph
As a matter of fact, the freemasonic ATS crew exhibits all cult-like characteristics in this thread. Mention a freemason in a paedophile scandal to test it for yourself. They feel personally hurt when you do, it's quite sad.
Originally posted by Thodeph
Looking for evidence for masonic children abuse, I found this description of what characterizes a cult.
Originally posted by Thodeph
As a matter of fact, the freemasonic ATS crew exhibits all cult-like characteristics in this thread. Mention a freemason in a paedophile scandal to test it for yourself. They feel personally hurt when you do, it's quite sad.
Originally posted by Trinityman
Originally posted by Thodeph
As a matter of fact, the freemasonic ATS crew exhibits all cult-like characteristics in this thread. Mention a freemason in a paedophile scandal to test it for yourself. They feel personally hurt when you do, it's quite sad.
Thanks for reminding me about that thread. It's the one where I completely debunked that nonsense about Thomas Hamilton, which was your prime example of masonic pedophilia.
It's left you without a leg to stand on, metaphorically speaking, and IMO lacking in any credibility. But hey, what do I know, I'm just a brainwashed cultist.
Originally posted by Thodeph
All I did was post articles from acknowledged newspapers -- The Guardian, The Enquirer, etc -- citing cases in which freemasons were accused of paedophilia (sometimes by other freemasons!) or implicated in the sabotage of investigations of child murder.
Originally posted by ThodephWhat you get in return, is the outright hysterical debunking by the ATS freemasons crew that you don't present any evidence or that no real freemasons are involved in the cases.
Originally posted by ThodephIn order to demonstrate the neutrality to which these people seem to adhere, they could have admitted that these cases create valid questions on the ethics of freemasonry. Instead, they feel personally attacked.