David Icke - Nut or Brilliant Researcher?

25% Brilliant, 75% nut.

You have to be somewhat smart to get people to believe that stuff.

David Icke is captivating when he speaks. He is far more articulate then say, our president. But who isn't?!? He completely captivates his audience.. but once he gets into the reptiles it gets a little hard to believe. I personally got into David because of the whole reptilian theory and I found that i learned so much about what is really going on.

I saw an article about a man that believes George Bush is a shapeshifting reptilian from another dimension and this guy got a standing ovation at some college in Canada.. and i thought, i got to look this guy up. So i researched him for hours and got my mind BLOWN AWAY. Bought some of his books, and even though the theory about reptilians is sooooo out there I have to admit, truth is stranger than fiction!

Im a pretty hard line skeptic, and I still will listen to the man anyday of the week!! Honestly I think he speaks very well.
Here is part 2 to the video I posted earlier..


I aswell leave out the reptiles.. Thats when I get my popcorn..
Otherwise what he says other wise is worth atleast listening too..
When he says Shapeshifter, I think metaphore....



[edit on 4-9-2007 by zysin5]

Wow. Almost everyone in this thread just completely dismisses the whole reptilian story.
I'm not sure i believe the specific people icke claims to be reptilians are actually that, but i won't completely discount the idea that they exist.

The information that Icke brings to the table makes it much easier to wrap your head around the Reptilian idea. Watch Secrets of the Matrix. its a 6 hour documentary. After watching it, leave your mind open and over the next few weeks or months, see how many things pop up in news/pop culture that have a ring of truth to them. Another great one to watch is Ickes 6 hour interview with Credo Mutwa. Fascinating information to be sure.

As the OP mentioned, there is countless references to reptile beings in scripture from various religions. If you really think about it you will realize that its been a comon theme for centuries. I really do think that thers some truth to it.

The ADL (a Jewish organisation in the US fighting anti-semitism) believe that ‘lizard’ is code word for Jews but Icke denies it.

[edit on 6-9-2007 by somethingaintright]

Of course Icke is a charismatic presenter, he was a very well known (In the UK) TV presenter for years where he learned his trade.

He's still a raving loony though

Im pretty confident I have found a Reptilian but I can't prove it. I will keep you posted on what plays out but he fits the criteria..all I gotta do is get him to shift in front of a heap of people.

david icke has a good sense of humour. I laughed tears reading the chapter on religions in his book "Love is all there is, everything else is an illusion". After having read some of his other books, this is also the first of his books that I actually liked. I thought: "He is finally growing up".

The guy has an arthritis problems with his fingers, has difficulty writing. now, why might that be? I´d say thats a psychologically/spiritually created problem. He`s been writing too much nonsense so his fingers loose the ability to write. Also, he is having this lawsuit problems among many other problematic issues. For me, all these problems originate from the fact that he is way too dark and negative in his worldview. When you go around accusing your fellow humans of being baby-eating, pedophile lizards without a shred of evidence, thats really a type of darkness that is uncalled for. apart from the book mentioned above, all of his books leave the reader feeling fearful, lonely and suffocating. If he wants to get rid of his problems, all he has to do is start writing more truth and add some humour and upliftment to his scenarios.

reply to post by BStoltman


My personal theory on David Icke...

He is a disinformation specialist.

or

He is being fed disinformation and believes its validity.

Either way, I absolutely refuse there are evil aliens on this planet in disguise. The evidence suggests any alien species capable of intersteller travel will surely be peaceful.

This reptilian garbage is disinformation brought to you by your friends from the Military-Industrial complex. If people feel threatened by an alien invasion, they'll beg for a one world goverment and world tax to pay for that world military.

Its the typical way the elite operate. Create a problem and offer a solution

Complete and total nutjob.

I cannot take anything he say seriously, the man was seemingly normal and then had a mental breakdown and has been a freak ever since.

I cannot see how anyone would ever take him seriously.

In his online autobiography, Icke writes that, in March 1990, while he was a national spokesperson for the Green Party, he received a message from the spirit world through a medium, identified by The Guardian as Betty Shine, a medium from Brighton. She told him he was a healer who had been chosen for his courage and sent to heal the earth, and that he had been directed into football to learn discipline. He was going to leave politics and would become famous, she said, writing five books in three years, and one day there would be a great earthquake, and the "sea will reclaim land," because human beings were abusing the earth.

When Icke told the Green Party leadership what he had experienced, he was banned from speaking at public meetings on their behalf. In 1991, after a trip to Peru, he wrote Truth Vibrations, an autobiographical work which summarized his life experiences up to that point, with an emphasis on his recent spiritual encounters. He began to wear only turquoise and on March 27, 1991, held a press conference to announce: "I am a channel for the Christ spirit. The title was given to me very recently by the Godhead."

In an interview on the Terry Wogan show that year, he announced that he was "the son of God," and that Britain would be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes. His statements were met with laughter and ridicule from the studio audience, derision in the press, and suggestions that he was mentally ill. Icke later said that he had been misinterpreted by the media. According to Icke, he used the term "the son of God"

Source: wikipedia

I am sorry but I always have one over riding question.

If all he says is correct, only one of two things can be happening-imo.

One, why is he alive if what he says is correct.

Two, if it is, then he must be in leage with them.

As weird as his claims are about shape shifting I almost believe it might be possible to a certain degree. Especially if an outside unknown element is utilized, say like a certain frequency that becomes in tune with our physical bodies or something causing an abnormal physical change.
Possible? maybe.

There are things around us we cannot see.
Don't believe me? Look into a remote control as you press a button at ramdom. Nothing is seen with a naked eye. Now aim the same remote at a video camera and you can see the pulses of infrared light.
This is what David talks about when he says the human brain filters out things we don't need to see.
So next time you get goose bumps and have a feeling that someone is watching you, maybe someone or something is.
Maybe your receptors actually pick up the vision but your brain filters this out because they actually belong in a different frequency spectrum or dimension.

What I find harder to believe are his claims that almost all people in our Government are reptoids.

Ever notice how Hollywod always portrays "the D-Evil" as a blonde haired, blue eyed entity with a British accent?

Maybe he is a shape shifter himself, revealing their secrets to us and forcing us to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Clifford Stonereply to post by mrmonsoon

If all he says is correct

Its not, and he even says that most of what he says is up to you to decide if you need it or not
Why is he still alive? Well for most of the crazy stuff he talks about..
But I belive he has some very good things to say and I will listen to him.
And not be as bold as to call him a nuttjob!! Look at all the good work he has done in the name of animal rights, and opening peoples minds!!


Take what you need, leave the rest. When you shut him out completely, is like turning a blind eye to small given truths!
Most of it is nonesense... As you said, if he did tell 100% truth all the time, he would be in danger..
Ever heard of Clifford Stone They killed his boy...

Edit- Added video about David Icke.. The words of a madman???
I think people should be more willing to hear him out, and take what they need, and leave the rest.. Its not all BS!! Its up to you to decide

[edit on 17-9-2007 by zysin5]

I believe in Reptilians but I can't see their connection with NWO ?HOW can they be on top of NWO?

My opinion:

He's not a loony, he is an eccentric, well educated man who has made a living out of fooling certain types of people to believe in his weird, wacky and outlandish claims and beliefs, okay he speaks well but listen to the videos posted here, he is talking in circles, does he actually make a point or provide proof of his claims at any point?
Take a look at his website, www.davidicke.com... the various links and please take note of how often you spot the following Your contributions are very much appreciated and vital to keeping his work going.

Even his mannerisms and body language have all been developed to trigger mentally vulnerable people, in much the same way a cold reader or hypnotist can lull his audience into a false sense of security.

I feel sorry for anyone gullible enough to be fooled by this conman.

As an earlier poster wrote, how he can survive with any credibility whilst maintaining this royal fmaily 'lizard' theory is beyond me.

This is simply my opinion, I am well aware of Icke's followers and fans and if they include fellow ATS'rs then who am I to judge but I feel do think this man has his act down to a fine art, I just wish I had the brains to be able to make a living out of fabricating facts about the world we live in.


[edit on 17-9-2007 by pmexplorer]

Hello to everyone

I`m no expert, but it seems to me that Icke is a great speaker and a greater plagiarist. All his theories are bits and pieces of someone else`s investigations. I know he puts his own twist, reptilians for example, but nevertheless this concept is just a modern way to denominate demonology phenomena that is known to men.

Just my two cents.

Camilo

He has about as much credibility as anyone else claiming that there's 7 foot lizard masons controlling the world with help from 72 different species of aliens and the illuminati. His "research" is baseless, unfounded, and sometimes laughable. I guess his new theory about life is that it's actually a matrix. 0's and 1's. He's completely lost in his own reality where his mind justifies the things we don't know or aren't so easily explainable. If you choose to buy into this information you'd be doing yourself a considerable disservice. I have a bad taste in my mouth just talking about it. I think I'm shapeshifting again...

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
I think I'm shapeshifting again...

Here, try some blood of innocent children. *hands a vile*

This should keep you goin' for a while.