what is up with "white nationalism"?

No biggie that why most of my friends do not have to go adventuring in the outback or jumping out of airplanes. You have to laugh to keep from crying.

My little quip at BT was a joke because he seems to be the only black guy here, hence, he is the only one with any authority to speak about "white nationalism," or at least this aspect of it. Am I wrong? And now I am the equivelent to a white uncle tom cause I dont think racism is dead? Or is it because I dont think us white folks got it that bad? I am not rallying behind anyone on this. I have my opinion based on my short time on this planet, and you all have yours.
To say that you guys know more about racism than a black guy is silly. I dont think any of you seriously mean any ill will towards any minorities, so I try not to get too heated, but the few of us on here that can't spell for crap, and dont even bother to use the important punctuation, or capitalization, just make it seem like I am trying to debate a child with no frame of reference, so forgive me if I dont reply to every little jab you fellas take.
I have not defended reparations either, by the way. Just wanted to make that clear. I just think we should all spend a minute out of our day to remember that racism is not dead. We can deny it all day long, but the fact that I still encounter white guys using the N-word, police still mistreat minorities, the court systems are so blatently racist, and even the medias accidental racism (remember Katrina's stealing/finding food thing?), etc...it only goes to prove my point.

Well when the truth hurts it is hard to reconcile with it. I seen it too many times when it starts to get to the meat of the myths then they all disappear to continue to beleive what they want. Most White folks live in a complete fantasy world when they look at minorites lives in america.

Just some easy reading...

academic.udayton.edu...
www.hrw.org...
www.discoverthenetwork.org...
www.aimovement.org...
www.mumia.org...
members.aol.com...
pzacad.pitzer.edu...
www.apa.org...
www.ired.com...

These are Doctors and scientists and professors opinions, plus a few activist pages for Mumia and Leo Peltier. Give em a skim.

Where are the links to your pages fighting for the mystical injustices us poor white dudes endure?

Does the Klan have a homepage?

the klan, sadly, is entitled to free speech and has a webpage, just look up klu klux klan, or whatever. you'll find them, and all of their frightening beliefs.

Actually, it's KU Klux Klan, not KLU Klux Klan. Also look up David Duke, and The American Socialist Party.

Maybe I am misinformed, but what does the America Socialist Party have to do with Dick-head Duke and the Klan?

I also love how this guy Duke always ensure the use of the Ph.D. in his name. Dont let anyone forget hes a doctor. Doctor Dick-head.

It might be National Socialist Party. I can't check it at work. It's a Neo-Nazi hate site.

Originally posted by DaFunk13
Where are the links to your pages fighting for the mystical injustices us poor white dudes endure?

Does the Klan have a homepage?

Here's one:

www.nationalvanguard.org...

EDIT:
It's not a Klan site it's just a site that is partially about pointing out crimes against whites by minorities that many media outlets ignore such as ongoing attacks by middle easterners in Australia.

That's an area that whites suffer injustices, violence against whites and a lack of coverage or even recognition that the violence is taking place. It's not all about job discrimination.


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Wow, lots of sarcasm radar failure...

Some of you white folk are glass jaw bullies(not trying to insult). You have a great time choking the life out of someone then when they get up and fight back then you cry foul.

What attocities?
Show me where in modern day a masacare of white folks? I can show you the opposite.

You live under the "protection" of these violent foregin policys then act like you are not violent. Must be how the german citizens felt under hitler...acting clueless. I want to know what is happening in GITMO. I want to know what is happening in war areas in my name. I just cant trust that they are doing the right thing.

I read the treads on the violence in Austrailia And both sides were violent both sides were dehumanizing the "enemy". But never mind the long history of death and distruction in bring a birth of a nation Austrailia or the US. It was incidental never happen again. yeah right...

BTW there is a 7 out ot 10 chance when someone in the world meets an American for the first time they are ususally in a Military uniform. Nationalism at its best well until China really gears up.

[edit on 12/09-2005 by BlackThought]

Originally posted by BlackThought
What attocities?
Show me where in modern day a masacare of white folks? I can show you the opposite.

You don't see many massacres of whites in the last 100+ years because we are able to defend ourselves as a group now. The problem is with many individual violent acts against whites.

yes I forgot preemptive wars..... First of all I am not a liberal but conservative complain and compain about being mistreated as white men. How PC talk is killing them (translation I can't act racist anymore). How can you be the victim and still run most of the Major revenue streams in the Western world. Whats the phrase Americas economy sneezes and the world gets a cold. Yet to actually work in conjuction with someone elses agenda leaves you crying foul is almost childlike. The reason you are not found in many mass graves, die from poisons, or bombs dropped in your cities is because more than likely you are behind the button or sold the arms for others to do your dirtywork. (ex: Isreal to Iran, Iraq to Iran, Eastern block to Russia, Christian coalitions to indiginous peoples everywhere)

I say this to point out that it is not what you say as a country or person it is you actions that speak louder. You say democracy but when a democracy starts to emerge that might have different ideas than what you want them to have covert operations go in. (ex: Haiti, Venezuela, Iran in the early 60's, Pakistain, and in some cases the UN gen assembly.) You tell the black folks in the Civil rights era to passivly march for rights don't act violent while in foregin policy you napalm and kill in order to serve your agenda weather its communisim or terrorism. Only when faced with a determined well financed enemy with nuclear weapons do you start talking about negiations and trade talks to normalize relations. Come on at least own up to it. Might does not alway mean right. My people having been on the other side of the sword gives us a much different picture of American life. Not because I have internalized the sickness because I understand the twist and turns of the road here in America.

For instance I just got off of work at night and me and some other workers were sitting outside near the bar by work. We were not drinking just talking. then a cop pulls up. We are spanish and african american with one white. The cop shines the light in our eyes searches us and proceeds to search my car. I say go ahead it is not like we were doing anything wrong. Then the cop said someone at the bar had something stolen out of their car a speakerbox. Then left the white guy was like "I have never been treated like that in my life." Me and the others were like "it happens to us all the time"

I know its hard to hear the truth because looking at African history I see a lot of problems hypocritical actions and murders. but I will own up to it. I will not say they were isolated eventsand that they have nothing to do with a pattern. There is a pattern.

I just want negoiations to start so everyone in this nation would feel like Americans not Hypen-Americans. It starts with you... you have to tell your people to stop hording what is American and learn to live with us not that we always need to learn how to live with you. Then the compormise will happen and the whole entire world will be a better place.

Originally posted by BlackThought


I just want negoiations to start so everyone in this nation would feel like Americans not Hypen-Americans. It starts with you... you have to tell your people to stop hording what is American and learn to live with us not that we always need to learn how to live with you. Then the compormise will happen and the whole entire world will be a better place.

That was, by far, the most intelligent, well thought out statement that you have made in 7 pages. I agree with you 100% and would like to see this happen. Bravo!

please attach with the all my statements I mean it all. you guys better wake you or you doom us all.

Originally posted by BlackThought
please attach with the all my statements I mean it all. you guys better wake you or you doom us all.

And you wonder why no one takes you seriously. Sheesh.

ohh i forgot anarchy is for white children only. LOL get real... there more people in the world than in the united states we cant beat them or bribe them all into submission.

btw who are you ???

[edit on 12/09-2005 by BlackThought]

I take him seriously because, like I said in an earlier post, he is the only one on this thread offering this perspective. You keep writing him off, yet have no real rebuttals. We stated that to say racial injustice equally affects whites as well as minorities is just dumb, and yet you refute it, and offer no evidence to the contrary.
He is correct, albeit a little extreme. We can all preach One Love, and I definately believe in it, but it doesnt exist, at least not in the America that I'm familiar with.
Lets all keep in mind we are all brother and sisters under GOD. Our physical attributes have nothing to do with our souls. At the same time, our differences are part of who we are and are not to be ignored. I love the fact that we are a land of many cultures. We should preserve this. Its the hateful feeling because of this divide that needs to go.

[edit on 26-1-2006 by DaFunk13]

nothing good will come from leaving this post up. sorry for the wasted bandwidth.



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