'We Are Too Humane. Burn Gaza Now' Says Senior Israeli Lawmaker

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Hecate666

Here is a real solurion. Just let the israelis have that bit of land and be the better person, loved all over the world, supported and esteemed.

Spoiler alert: If 2 million displaced Palestinians showed up on Europe's doorstep they're going to find a distinct lack of love, support, and esteem.

You don't read things do you?
Let israelis have israel. Start peace. Dont attack any longer.
Nobody needs to go anywhere.
Are you a bot?

a reply to: Hecate666

You said let Israel have that little bit of land in a thread about Gaza. So where are the 2 million Gazans going to go?

There's hundreds of posts here on ATS stating Israel does not want to kill all the Palestinians!

Hundreds of posts.

When leaders make statements about promoting genocide and then the following happens:

-food deliveries are stopped
-water is turned off
-houses are bombed
-schools are bombed
-hospitals are bombed

It's genocide. Israel is committing genocide. They say they want to and they are doing it.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
-food deliveries are stopped

Aid is getting in. If the Palestinians wanted a better lifestyle they shouldn't have put Hamas in charge and they shouldn't be calling for the genocide of Israel and the people who live there.

-water is turned off

They have water. If the Palestinians wanted a better lifestyle they shouldn't have put Hamas in charge and they shouldn't be calling for the genocide of Israel and the people who live there.

-houses are bombed
-schools are bombed
-hospitals are bombed

No schools or hospitals were bombed. The houses that were bombed, and the schools and hospitals that the IDF entered were because HAMAS was doing business out of them. HAMAS caused them to be part of the war, not Israel. Don't want hospitals and schools entered by Israel troops? Then don't have terrorists storing weapons In them and don't have terrorists hiding in them after hitting Israel in terrorist attacks.

It's genocide. Israel is committing genocide. They say they want to and they are doing it.

Nope.

Hamas and the Palestinians call for the destruction of Israel.
Hamas and the Palestinians call for the deaths of all the Jews.
Hamas is trying to make that happen.
They get help from Muslim countries to make it happen
And from useful idiots in the West who buy their propaganda.
THAT is actual genocide.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
-food deliveries are stopped

Aid is getting in. If the Palestinians wanted a better lifestyle they shouldn't have put Hamas in charge and they shouldn't be calling for the genocide of Israel and the people who live there.

-water is turned off

They have water. If the Palestinians wanted a better lifestyle they shouldn't have put Hamas in charge and they shouldn't be calling for the genocide of Israel and the people who live there.

-houses are bombed
-schools are bombed
-hospitals are bombed

No schools or hospitals were bombed. The houses that were bombed, and the schools and hospitals that the IDF entered were because HAMAS was doing business out of them. HAMAS caused them to be part of the war, not Israel. Don't want hospitals and schools entered by Israel troops? Then don't have terrorists storing weapons In them and don't have terrorists hiding in them after hitting Israel in terrorist attacks.

It's genocide. Israel is committing genocide. They say they want to and they are doing it.

Nope.

Hamas and the Palestinians call for the destruction of Israel.
Hamas and the Palestinians call for the deaths of all the Jews.
Hamas is trying to make that happen.
They get help from Muslim countries to make it happen
And from useful idiots in the West who buy their propaganda.
THAT is actual genocide.

There is the legal definition of genocide and it can be found here

The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part.

www.un.org...

The key words are 'in whole or in part'.
The IDF has destroyed a large part of Gaza and killed many thousands of innocent civilians. So you understand is kind of difficult to whitewash whatever crimes they have committed. Both sides have committed war crimes and crimes again humanity and there is no doubt about it.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
-food deliveries are stopped

Aid is getting in. If the Palestinians wanted a better lifestyle they shouldn't have put Hamas in charge and they shouldn't be calling for the genocide of Israel and the people who live there.

-water is turned off

They have water. If the Palestinians wanted a better lifestyle they shouldn't have put Hamas in charge and they shouldn't be calling for the genocide of Israel and the people who live there.

-houses are bombed
-schools are bombed
-hospitals are bombed

No schools or hospitals were bombed. The houses that were bombed, and the schools and hospitals that the IDF entered were because HAMAS was doing business out of them. HAMAS caused them to be part of the war, not Israel. Don't want hospitals and schools entered by Israel troops? Then don't have terrorists storing weapons In them and don't have terrorists hiding in them after hitting Israel in terrorist attacks.

It's genocide. Israel is committing genocide. They say they want to and they are doing it.

Nope.

Hamas and the Palestinians call for the destruction of Israel.
Hamas and the Palestinians call for the deaths of all the Jews.
Hamas is trying to make that happen.
They get help from Muslim countries to make it happen
And from useful idiots in the West who buy their propaganda.
THAT is actual genocide.

The rest of your reply is an attempt at whitewashing the crimes committed by Israel and gaslight anyone who points out the obvious. Don't you think that the world has not seen what is going on or is it that people are stupid?

There are several calls for Israel's Government to be arrested and brought before the International Criminal Court and Israel has isolated itself and managed to lose all support and sympathy. Do you have think the Muslim world is not looking at what is happening? Netanyahou and his Government have managed to turn the entire Muslim world against them and much of the non Muslim world.

originally posted by: CaptainX
The key words are 'in whole or in part'.

No. With key word being INTENT.
Israel has no INTENT to wipe out the Palestinians.
Israel intends to wipe out Hamas.
It's Hamas that is getting the Palestinians killed. Not Israel.

UN.ORG

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

originally posted by: CaptainX
The rest of your reply is an attempt at whitewashing the crimes committed by Israel...

Nope. Just the facts.

There are several calls for Israel's Government to be arrested and brought before the International Criminal Court

So what? Millions marched with the Nazis but that didn't make them right either.

Israel has isolated itself and managed to lose all support and sympathy.

That's your opinion. Not a fact.

Do you have think the Muslim world is not looking at what is happening? Netanyahou and his Government have managed to turn the entire Muslim world against them and much of the non Muslim world.

The entire Muslim world was against Israel and Netanyahou already.
Bombing Hamas in Gaza has nothing to do with Muslim hatred of Israel.

Is that you again AlienBorg/Muldar/Leviathan4?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: CaptainX
The key words are 'in whole or in part'.

No. With emphasis on INTENT.
Israel has no INTENT to wipe out the Palestinians.
Israel intends to wipe out Hamas.
It's Hamas that is getting the Palestinians killed. Not Israel.

UN.ORG

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Again, that's only you trying to whitewashing the crimes committed by Israel and gaslight everyone else who is pointing out the obvious. The world knows there is clear intent and the officials in Israel don't even hide it. Destroy Gaza and annihilate it or erase it from the face of the Earth.

originally posted by: CaptainX
Again, ....

You can keep repeating yourself on thread after thread ... again ...
But it doesn't change the fact that the key word is INTENT.
And Israels INTENT is not to genocide Palestinians.
Therefore, it's not genocide, no matter how much you scream otherwise.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: CaptainX
The rest of your reply is an attempt at whitewashing the crimes committed by Israel...

Nope. Just the facts.

There are several calls for Israel's Government to be arrested and brought before the International Criminal Court

So what? Millions marched with the Nazis but that didn't make them right either.

Israel has isolated itself and managed to lose all support and sympathy.

That's your opinion. Not a fact.

Do you have think the Muslim world is not looking at what is happening? Netanyahou and his Government have managed to turn the entire Muslim world against them and much of the non Muslim world.

The entire Muslim world was against Israel and Netanyahou already.
Bombing Hamas in Gaza has nothing to do with Muslim hatred of Israel.

Is that you again AlienBorg/Muldar/Leviathan4?

You can't even see the irony when you try to justify and whitewash the crimes committed by Israel when you reply in a thread made about a senior lawmaker who argues to burn Gaza, showing clear intent, and refuting your attempts to defend the actions taken by Israel.

The entire Muslim world was against Israel and Netanyahou already.
Bombing Hamas in Gaza has nothing to do with Muslim hatred of Israel.

The Muslim world didn't want to start a war against Israel. But the way Netanyahou and his Government have handled the situation it makes a much more realistic scenario.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: CaptainX
Again, ....

You can keep repeating yourself on thread after thread ... again ...
But it doesn't change the fact that the key word is INTENT.
And Israels INTENT is not to genocide Palestinians.
Therefore, it's not genocide, no matter how much you scream otherwise.

The intent is clear regardless of what you are saying.

Do you see the title of this thread?!
It's: Burn Gaza

Can you not see the intent as expressed by members of Israel's Parliament?

a reply to: CaptainX

You're persistent aren't you.

originally posted by: CaptainX
The intent is clear regardless of what you are saying.

That's your opinion and it has easily been proven wrong.

Can you not see the intent as expressed by members of Israel's Parliament?
Can you not see that Israel doesn't have the intent to genocide the Palestinians, otherwise they'd be dead by now. Can you not see that the Israelis have been threatened with destruction of Israel and genocide by the Palestinians so some naturally will say that Israel should strike them first? It's not happening ... but that's a natural SELF PRESERVATION reaction to what the Palestinians are calling for.

originally posted by: CaptainX

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: CaptainX
Again, ....

You can keep repeating yourself on thread after thread ... again ...
But it doesn't change the fact that the key word is INTENT.
And Israels INTENT is not to genocide Palestinians.
Therefore, it's not genocide, no matter how much you scream otherwise.

The intent is clear regardless of what you are saying.

Do you see the title of this thread?!
It's: Burn Gaza

Can you not see the intent as expressed by members of Israel's Parliament?

You sound familiar. Has there been a sock puppet shift change?

a reply to: CaptainX

You continue to be in clear violation of the terms and conditions here at ATS.
You are not an honest poster here and your “contributions” are a detriment to this site.

16c.) Multiple Accounts: You will not create multiple user accounts and "talk to yourself."

a reply to: FlyersFan

So you say there is no "intent" therefore, there isn't intent?

Just because you say so doesn't make it true.

This post is about an Israeli law maker literally calling for genocide and you say there is no intent!

You can determine intent from words and actions.

Israel lawmakers call for genocide.

Israel then bomb civilians
Stops food and water
Bombs enough to leave 80% of the population homeless
Bombs hospitals

Israel is committing genocide!

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
This post is about an Israeli law maker literally calling for genocide and you say there is no intent!

This is about one lawmaker saying that Israel should kill the Palestinians before the Palestinians kill all of Israel. You are going to find a few of them who say that because it's a natural response and SELF DEFENSE. The actual POLICY of Israel is just the opposite - not targeting civilians, trying to minimize civilian deaths, letting in food/water/fuel aid, opening evacuation corridors, etc. 2.3 million Gaza citizens and only a few thousand dead. That's not genocide and thats' obviously not 'intent' of genocide on the part of the Israeli government.

a reply to: FlyersFan

No not enough food and water is getting in.

The Red Cross isn't HAMAS - they are generally a honest organization.

Israel is stopping this aid?

Why stop food and water for civilians?

a reply to: Freeborn

I think you meant "pestilential"?