If you support the call for Israel to offer ceasefire, then you support Hamas.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Freeborn

Personally I think hamas and Iran has succeeded.

They have united the globe against Israel and anti-Jew anything is on the rise.

Is it anti-Jew to support a ceasefire with the terrorists Israel is currently engaging combatically?

Have the palestinians released the hostages yet?

I don't know.

Is Israel supporting the terrorists now that they have called for a ceasefire?

HAMAS is resupplying as we speak!

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: DBCowboy

I think that's the message MSM are trying to deliver.

I do think we may be approaching the time when people/governments are going to have to decide which side of the fence they are on.
I know which side I'm on.

Salute

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Freeborn

Personally I think hamas and Iran has succeeded.

They have united the globe against Israel and anti-Jew anything is on the rise.

Is it anti-Jew to support a ceasefire with the terrorists Israel is currently engaging combatically?

Have the palestinians released the hostages yet?

I don't know.

Is Israel supporting the terrorists now that they have called for a ceasefire?

HAMAS is resupplying as we speak!

Are the hostages released.

That's all I care about right now.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Freeborn

Personally I think hamas and Iran has succeeded.

They have united the globe against Israel and anti-Jew anything is on the rise.

I somewhat agree with you.

Whoever designed the attacks wanted this type of response from Israel.
Israel had a very well known policy of not negotiating for hostages.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

You keep on rhyming on about is calling for a ceasefire supporting terrorists.
Yet refuse to answer who Israel are supposed to agree a ceasefire with.

It'd be shear stupidity for Israel to unilaterally call a ceasefire.

As has been repeatedly pointed out to you Hamas has no intention of agreeing to any ceasefire and no matter what intend to continue carrying out terrorist attacks against Israel.

Israel has a duty and responsibility to safeguard its people, its obviously impossible to do that as long as Hamas exists.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

You keep on rhyming on about is calling for a ceasefire supporting terrorists.
Yet refuse to answer who Israel are supposed to agree a ceasefire with.

I have stated numerous times in this thread and many others as to with whom Israel is supposed to negotiate.

Please remember my answer this time, as it is exhausting to rewrite in original ways so many times.

No one on ATS, I believe, can be considered qualified for any official international diplomatic position with a capacity to answer that question either.

Back to my question.

Is Israel supporting terrorists for calling for ceasefire?

It follows the same logic as the title of the thread.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Freeborn

Personally I think hamas and Iran has succeeded.

They have united the globe against Israel and anti-Jew anything is on the rise.

I somewhat agree with you.

Whoever designed the attacks wanted this type of response from Israel.

Precisely my suspicions, as well.

Why else launch those attacks if not to GOAD Israel in such a response?

If I wanted the middle east in a state of continuous destabilization for generations to come, Oct 7th style terrorist attack is probably one thing I would do, purely speculatively, of course.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Freeborn

Personally I think hamas and Iran has succeeded.

They have united the globe against Israel and anti-Jew anything is on the rise.

Is it anti-Jew to support a ceasefire with the terrorists Israel is currently engaging combatically?

Have the palestinians released the hostages yet?

I don't know.

Is Israel supporting the terrorists now that they have called for a ceasefire?

HAMAS is resupplying as we speak!

Are the hostages released.

That's all I care about right now.

Start a thread asking that question?

The spoon-feeding has ended.

Kitchen closed.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

So, in the absence of anyone to negotiate a ceasefire with Israel should unilaterally declare a ceasefire despite the fact that Hamas has repeatedly stated they have no intention of stopping terrorist attacks against Israel and will continue to do so until Israel no longer exists and all Jews are removed from 'Palestine'?

Who in the right #ing mind would agree to do that?

You're just repeating empty and meaningless words over and over again in an effort to appear oh so caring and compassionate.
Alas, they have no relevance or meaning at all in the real world the rest of us live in.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

You're just repeating empty and meaningless words over and over again in an effort to appear oh so caring and compassionate.
Alas, they have no relevance or meaning at all in the real world the rest of us live in.

Logic absolutely has meaning and relevance in the real world. Are we to discredit the philosophical process that has stood the test of time by accepting the title of the thread?

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Freeborn

Personally I think hamas and Iran has succeeded.

They have united the globe against Israel and anti-Jew anything is on the rise.

Is it anti-Jew to support a ceasefire with the terrorists Israel is currently engaging combatically?

Have the palestinians released the hostages yet?

I don't know.

Is Israel supporting the terrorists now that they have called for a ceasefire?

HAMAS is resupplying as we speak!

Are the hostages released.

That's all I care about right now.

Start a thread asking that question?

The spoon-feeding has ended.

Kitchen closed.

So you don't care about the hostages.


Obviously.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Hamas has very tragically trained a generation from pre-school to hate. There are reports that children as young as 10-12 took part in the attack.

With money and support provided by ... ISRAEL.

It's almost like what is happening now was pre-planned as a way to have an excuse to wipe them out down to the last man, woman and child.

ETAL: So, which side is more evil in such a case?

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Hamas and it's allies wanted this - and this exactly

Hamas doesn't give a flying F for the Palestinian people. They're completely expendable

Israel is killing innocent people because they believe they're teaching Hamas a lesson, and proving they can defend Israel

It's nothing but a failure. The entire thing

They won't get their hostages back. They won't bring back their dead. They won't avenge anyone

They're only going to kill more expendable Palestinians who have no value as human beings to either side

Moral bankruptcy is a thing. Nothing will come from any of this that will accomplish anything useful or righteous

Arguing with people who need to tell themselves they're doing strategy while also doing something noble and morally sound because some people are expendable is futile.

But I understand why you do it

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

It's nothing but a failure. The entire thing

I agree with everything you said 100%.

But the entire thing is a failure only if one does not consider the possibility that there is conspiracy within the Israeli government, IDF, and MOSSAD that seeks to destabilize the ME in order to turn western powers against Islamic states and towards Israel, because that has met some success in such endeavors.

However, even such intentions seem to be failing in that regard, as well, as far as global perception goes, not the destabilization factor, destabilization is too easy to inflict to not succeed...

...but that global perception thing is indeed a tricky one to pull-off.

a reply to: Freeborn

I know you do, I was speaking in general to the dominant messages of Israel bad, Palestine justified.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Yeah, you've made that point over and over again. Satisfied now?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: Freeborn

I know you do, I was speaking in general to the dominant messages of Israel bad, Palestine justified.

I see the distinction between Palestinians and HAMAS has dissolved, yet again.

Even Israel doesn't publicly designate the Palestinians as terrorists.

Why do you?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Yeah, you've made that point over and over again. Satisfied now?

It still has yet to be answered. That's what this thread is about: following the logic you and many others use, hopefully while not under duress, and showing such statements are wrong and DISINFORMATION.


Is Israel supporting terrorists for calling for a ceasefire?

a reply to: tanstaafl

Israel is damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they help Palestine they get blamed for creating Hamas, if they don't help Palestine, then they are cruel prison keepers.

How about the Muslims quit trying to slaughter the Jews?

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Because its just a new name for an old game, and a dodge.

Yes, Israel must be diplomatic. I dont.