Millions of Deranged Americans Are Openly Supporting Islamic Terrorist Acts While Hating on Israel.

originally posted by: Kontars
a reply to: CoyoteAngels

If you want to understand in very simple terms, Israel for a Zionist is like Allah for a Muslim. A Zionist is a Jihadist for Israel while a Muslim is a Jihadist for Allah.

No.

Just stop.

That's not what Zionism is.

Zionism is the desire and protection of the Jewish state.

Do you think the state of Israel has a right to exist?

If so, then you are a Zionist.

Well, that's exactly what Jihadists do, they protect whatever mambo jumbo they think needs protection. My metaphor is not perfect but as a starting point for him to understand.

originally posted by: Kontars
Well, that's exactly what Jihadists do, they protect whatever mambo jumbo they think needs protection. My metaphor is not perfect but as a starting point for him to understand.

Jihad is . . . "Everyone becomes Muslim or you die".

Israel is, . . . "We just want to exist, leave us alone".

a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't say Hamas wants peace. I'm saying it's a false flag, and saying this is staged.

But not all Palestinians are in the Hamas click.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Kontars
Well, that's exactly what Jihadists do, they protect whatever mambo jumbo they think needs protection. My metaphor is not perfect but as a starting point for him to understand.

Jihad is . . . "Everyone becomes Muslim or you die".

Israel is, . . . "We just want to exist, leave us alone".

Jihad has a lot in common with Nazi philosophy.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I do know the difference. Its not complicated. Im not Jewish. But I'm a Zionist. I believe they should have a country after having been nearly exterminated by the Germans, and the Muslims were German allies.

Judaism is a religion. Zionism is a political stance.

Why do you need to complicate it.

Please give me one defining property beyond what I've identified. It should not be hard since you have such a depth of understanding.

We are here to discuss, not throw sources at one another, right?

So, in your view, what is another distinguishing characteristic or property of 'zionist or zionism'?

originally posted by: Spacehead1111
a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't say Hamas wants peace. I'm saying it's a false flag, and saying this is staged.

But not all Palestinians are in the Hamas click.

How long has Hamas been the government there?


Furthermore, is it true that the other jihadi group is its only threat?

originally posted by: Spacehead1111
a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't say Hamas wants peace. I'm saying it's a false flag, and saying this is staged.

But not all Palestinians are in the Hamas click.

Tell me the difference between Palestinians and Hamas.

a reply to: DBCowboy
I'm sorry with due respect, I find these definitions invalid.

Jihad: Do whatever it takes to protect Allah and other Muslims.
Zionism: Do whatever it takes to protect Israel and other follow Zionists. That is Israel's right to exist, including killing e.g. USS Liberty that was bombed by Israelis and murder of many American citizens "intentionally" to avoid having a witness on war crimes during that period.

originally posted by: Spacehead1111
a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't say Hamas wants peace. I'm saying it's a false flag, and saying this is staged.

But not all Palestinians are in the Hamas click.

Staged by who?

originally posted by: Kontars
a reply to: DBCowboy
I'm sorry with due respect, I find these definitions invalid.

Glad you aren't in charge of definitions.

You've never served or spent time in the Middle East I'll wager.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Well, actually that is not accurate! One is a deity with multiple sects and countries, many, with one thing in common: hatred for Jews. The other is a political belief that people who Germany tried to exterminate, with assistance of others, such as many of the Arab countries, should have a country of their own. The world agreement was to give this land to the survivors of this true genocide effort.

Do Zionists want to kill all the Muslims?

Thats the biggest difference.

You kind of have it very scrambled up, as far as I can tell.


ETA: Hey, DB, I messed this up, and meant it for the fellow you were responding too.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I hope that you're right and I could learn something from you. I'm giving all the examples needed to illustrate my point. If you can find counter examples, that would be great.

a reply to: carewemust

"Deranged Americans" is rude. They prefer to be called democrats.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: carewemust

"Deranged Americans" is rude. They prefer to be called democrats.

As a deranged American, I'm offended.


I bite my thumb at you sir.

Today, after democrats publicly posted a clear photo of U.S. Special Forces in Israel, effectively "Doxxing" American GIs ... Can there be any doubt which side they're on ... ? Mistake my ass !

originally posted by: Kontars
a reply to: DBCowboy

I hope that you're right and I could learn something from you. I'm giving all the examples needed to illustrate my point. If you can find counter examples, that would be great.

Ummm, you made up stuff to support Hamas and slam Israel.

Or did I miss something?

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

It might very well be, if you did. Im interested in YOUR opinion of what ZIONISM is. Not Al Jaz or Turkish.

You can stomp your feet, but this should be easy, if I'm wrong.

BUt so far, you can't. And its obvious.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I support historical facts. I want/need to learn more about history, so you must give me factual information only. No one said anything about Hamas here, so I'm not certain where did you get that from. Probably you where replying to some other thread.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Oh my gosh you made my day with that "definition right on the spot", interestingly the "derange Americans" will do what the media tells them to do and believe what they media wants them to believe.

With help of "derange politicians" and domestic terrorist groups like antifa and BLM