Rockets fired at Israel from Gaza rocket attack terrorists have infiltrated from Gaza

a reply to: Freeborn

Me too. Though you wouldn't think it from some of the replies I'm getting for daring to question the suggested genocide of millions of folk!

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: burntheships

You know what, if Hamas and the Palestinians love their
children, they could get them out of harms way.

They cannot.

Do you know what the term 'siege' means?

If it is too late, but that is on them, not Israel or
anyone else for that matter.

You have heard the term "too little too late"?

a reply to: burntheships

So you don't know about the illegal blockade, either.

This is underwhelming.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Freeborn

Me too. Though you wouldn't think it from some of the replies I'm getting for daring to question the suggested genocide of millions of folk!

Do you also question Ukraine defending itself?

Hamas and/or Palestinians don't want land, property, resources, wealth.

They want all Jewish people dead.

How do you negotiate with that?

How do you "compromise" on that?

"Gee Hamas, lets meet in the middle and just genocide half of all Israelis."

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: burntheships

So you don't know about the illegal blockade, either.

This is underwhelming.

What are you talking about? The one where they
blocked the road for supplies?

The one that got blasted when Egypt tried to
come in with aid to the terrorists?

Yes I know about it.

What side are you on?

I'm not a terrorist sympathizer if that
is what your saying, damn straight.

I want to know whether Iran helped Hamas in planning the recent attack on Israel.

I know Iran sent smuggled missile parts overland to the Gaza Strip, only to be reassembled there and shot off.

Apparently....Hamas went old school in planning the attack, with their use of cell phones being totally restricted before the attack, away from Israel's prying electronic eavesdropping.

What happened to the Israeli spies in the Gaza Strip? Seems like Hamas was successful in eliminating them.

I'm curious to see whether Hezbollah will open up a second battle frontline on the Lebanese border against the IDF.

Anyhow...gas prices seems likely to soar over this dreaded, unfinished outcome, which only helps Russia's war-based economy.

a reply to: burntheships

I'm on the side of human rights, you have the soundbites from Biden.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I firmly believe Israel are justified in striking back with such force that Hamas, Hezbollah and the rest of the scumbags won't be able to carry out an attack like this again for another generation or two.....if ever at all.

But I can't buy into the 'they killed our babies so we'll kill their babies' logic.
If its wrong that Hamas did it - and it unequivocally is wrong - then its wrong if Israel intentionally does it.

But it'd be naivety to the extreme to think that retribution will come without collateral damage....and that is truly sickening that I accept that as inevitable.

All because of religion - mental.

a reply to: Erno86

What happened to the Israeli spies in the Gaza Strip? Seems like Hamas was successful in eliminating them.

Just a thought but.

If all your spy's get eliminated or become incommunicado, that would be an indication in itself, that something serious was up or about to go down.

Same with a lack of enemy electronic communications.

originally posted by: Erno86
I want to know whether Iran helped Hamas in planning the recent attack on Israel.

Yes they did, click here

a reply to: burntheships

No, I have been quite vocal in my support of Ukraine.

Also fully support Israel's right to self defence and to wipe out Hamas, Hezbollah too, come to that.

Not the killing of everyone in Gaza, though.

Call that unreasonable, if you will?

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: burntheships

Iyou have the soundbites from Biden.

No, I don't. And I won't.

What he says is entirely irrelevant!

a reply to: Freeborn

Agreed.

Does that make us vile baby murdering rapist supporters?

Apparently according to some.

Bonkers?

a reply to: burntheships

I just watched him spit the exactly same line of garbage.

Stand behind whatever you believe, should I post the clip from aljazeera?

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: putnam6

The depravity needed to perform such atrocities... no words

I wouldn't call this one-sided dehumanization alongside the political instrumentalization of dead children an atrocity, but you're close.

Could be it's own thread as well, ATS always delivers.

"political instrumentalization"

So one side rallies in the street dragging dead women while their people cheer, and the other side uses the brutality of this attack against the Palestinians, it doesn't mean the atrocities didn't occur

Yeah, guess which side I sympathize with more, Im not blind the Palestinians' plight, but brutally killing innocents wasn't gonna make it better in any timeline, and definitely not this one. Thats the reality, and it certainly doesn't make those on the fence run to their side.

Furthermore, it makes me wonder about their intelligence and leadership that would think that it does.

Right or wrong the reality was after such an attack, there was gonna be only one response.

Hell I don't like the subjugation and brutalization of the Ughyers either but the reality is China holds all the cards in the current situation, just as Israel does over Gaza.

Hamas freaked over the normalization talks between Saudia Arabia and Israel, and over-reacted and is paying huge price

originally posted by: putnam6
Hamas freaked over the normalization talks between Saudia Arabia and Israel, and over-reacted and is paying huge price

^^ THAT. YEP.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

Also fully support Israel's right to self defence and to wipe out Hamas, Hezbollah too, come to that.

Not the killing of everyone in Gaza, though.

I think if that is what Israel was going to do in defense,
they would have already taken care of it.

They are preparing ground troops, everyone
over 20 has been called up.

So it seems that even in light of war crimes
committed against them, and unspeakable
atrocities, they are going to risk more casualties
from their own to take care not to wipe
everyone out.

I give them credit for the restraint.

a reply to: putnam6

Do you think the Palestinians deserve a genocide or not?

That's where we are, you can skip the foreplay.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
The same people on here rooting for Ukraine AND Israel. You're either on the side of the oppressed or the oppressor. what's it to be?

Morons.

The side I'm not going to be on is the one beheading babies.

Not that side.

Nope.

Israelis have been beheading babies with bombs for decades. Which side are you on again?

That's the problem with all you Israeli boot lickers. you believe the murders in THE PALESTINE only started a few days ago, You believe that atrocities can only be carried out but the Arab people. The British taught Israelis, the Nazis, the US, and the world how to do barbarism ffs.