Forced mobilisation in Ukraine

a reply to: BalticB

It makes no difference to me if your interpretations are different from mine, but if you can't see the stark reality and the consequences it will produce, this misery will just spread and end up engulfing us all. This is a Slavic affair, and the USA will eventually get the blame for doing what it always messes up. In the past, they have got away with it without consequences to the continental mainland. Simply because the parties involved had no means to resist.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: BalticB

We're waiting for Steiner's counter attack

Steiner isn't coming.

Yeah if you're able bodied and love your country, you ought to fight for it. Been going on for millenia. Desperate is a good description when you're homeland is being invaded. Can't everyone be a Frenchman 👍

originally posted by: Quintilian

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: greendust

We support democracy.... Elections have now been suspended as well.

Zelensky and his Nazi friends banned political opposition long ago. In fact he banned 11 political parties (and seized their assets). Apart from supporting (via the US) his Nazi friends in hostilities against his own people, he has also made ongoing efforts to erase Russian culture, and also brought in censorship regulations that gives him control of the media.

By anyone's standards, that's a tyrant (in reality a corrupt western puppet).

That's just a snippet of Zelensky's efforts though, without going into the violent US backed coup which ousted the democratically elected govt of the day and ultimately escalated into to the conflict we have today.


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I guessing the CIA will disappear Z after the war & blame Russia or internal conflicts.

a reply to: anonentity

What is funny about this conflict is some people believe every news article form the west is propaganda... but believe every scrap of news from russia.

Or the other way..

why cant people just accept that both sides tell some degree of truth.

Personally, I see no way that russia comes out of this in a better position than prior to the war, their total lack of logistical awareness is embarrassing for a nation that considers itself a military power.

If they were fighting someone that had the ability to project power to any degree outside of their home territory, they already would have lost moscow.

a reply to: Irishhaf
Well then, I guess Ukraine will be breaking that first defensive line any minute now. They are approaching 50,000 dead fighters in the last three months. The Colombians are fed up and will likely tell the corrupt filth that is Ukraines government and armed services to go eat a gun. They lucky they were not treating Mexicans like this or I suspect they would have been disemboweled in their sleep and had their faces peeled off. It would serve them right to do so too.

Maybe we should contract the Mexicans to show them real terror so their corrupt idiots figure out peace ain't so bad. I don't even know how the information warfare units can even keep posting online with a straight face anymore. I'll do them a favor and give them an AI generated propaganda peice to flag for removal. It is reporting the wrong narrative and is a threat to democracy.

a reply to: face23785

I'm telling you he's coming, damn it! Putin hasn't even started yet

a reply to: musicismagic

Also today on Japan News said Ukraine now is invading parts of Russia. I don't think this has hit the main news yet.

Probably because it hasn't happened.

On the one hand we are being told that Ukraine are desperate and press ganging all and sundry to fight and on the other they are powerful enough to invade the all mighty Russia?
Can't be both.

And the criticism of Ukraine for calling people up to defend their own country from invaders....the self-same invaders who have called up all and sundry and then more to conduct the invasion?

I'm sure the Ukrainians are just flocking to be Sent into a MeatGrinder

Amputations in Ukraine are as widespread as in the trenches of World War I due to Russia's heavy use of mines and artillery: report

Between 20,000-50,000 Ukrainians are estimated to have had an amputation during the invasion.

must be a bad return on investments huh

a reply to: face23785

But PS...dont really care if you mod games or stuff as long as its not in MP game modes....

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Let me clue you in cause you obviously missed what I said...

BOTH SIDES ARE SPEWING PROPAGANDA.

If you cant see or grasp that then good day because I try not to spend a lot of time with people pushing propaganda.

Last point, Russia started this so they should get less benefit of the doubt.

a reply to: Irishhaf

If you use who started it it will never get clearer.

a reply to: anonentity

You are correct, but look at history if the aggressor loses it does not go well for them.

Russia should win, but if they cant unfark their logistics all its going to be is a meat grinder for both sides.

a reply to: Irishhaf

The problem as I see it is if it goes on much longer, one of the parties will do a preemptive strike, if Nato is crippled the war in Ukraine is over. Russia and a few of the other countries have deep bunkers for their population. The West will have a few for those with tickets on the ark.In a war of attrition they will probably survive. There will not be enough personnel left for an occupying army for any winner. This might be obvious to the belligerent parties, it all depends on what's really going on. NATO wants Russia divided up into bite-size pieces. The whole of the planning is to contain China and Russia with missile systems, This is hardly a recipe for a peace stew, so it will go off at some stage.

a reply to: anonentity

I have no way of knowing for certain obviously, but judging by how unmaintained their regular equipment is, I have strong doubts about the upkeep on their nukes. Those things take constant maintenance to stay viable so in theory they would get the lion share of the maintenance money.

Good chance quite a bit of them will not function properly.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Probably because the production of child porn, sale of children by desperate parents, and distribution of said porn are, if not the highest in the world in that dank, moist, asshole of a country, then they're abso####inglutely in the top 2. Well I'm sure that's at least PART of the bidens interest.

originally posted by: BalticB


Getting pretty sick of these Ukraine "experts" who couldn't locate Crimea or Donbas in the world map prior to the 2022 invasion

Kinda like all the Ukraine "experts" in the US who support Ukraine but couldn't tell you who the last President of Ukraine was and don't know all the new rules and laws he put in place to make any ethnic Russian Ukrainian to feel as unwelcomed in their own country as could possibly be. Not only unwelcomed, but beaten, fired upon, shot and even burned to death if they didn't follow or protested against the new anti Russian culture/language rules and laws.

Yet these same experts think it's great that millions of Illegal immigrants keep flooding the US southern border and absolutely lose their socks when they thought mounted US border patrol was whipping illegals that were attempting to unlawfully enter the country.

originally posted by: tnxoxodka

Ask the Africans: the Russians treat them like human beings, and with respect... while the Western countries have ensured that Africa remains ripe for resource plundering.

The Russians and Putin have always treated the Africans with respect, it's why the Africans have always supported and liked the Russians

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Yes, of course Russias interest in Africa is entirely benevolent and altruistic:

www.brookings.edu...

"In its African strategy, the Kremlin is motivated foremost by a desire to thwart U.S. policy objectives, almost irrespective of their substance. Considering Africa “one of Russia’s foreign policy priorities,” Russian President Vladimir Putin also seeks to create African dependencies on Moscow’s military assets and access African resources, targeting countries that have fragile governments but are often rich in important raw materials, such as oil, gold, diamonds, uranium, and manganese. Russian private security companies such as the Wagner Group purport to redress complex local military and terrorism conflicts with which African governments have struggled. They also offer to these governments the ability to conduct counterinsurgency and counterterrorism operations unconstrained by human rights responsibilities, unlike the United States, allowing African governments to be as brutish in their military efforts as they like. In turn, Russia seeks payment in concessions for natural resources, substantial commercial contracts, or access to strategic locations, such as airbases or ports."

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
so their intentions are exactly the same as the West's? Oh no that's right, the Western model is to force their governments to sell every national resource and industry to foreign capital so that there is little to no domestic ownership or independent technological production by the host country. The resources are exported for pennies on the petro-dollar to the developed former colonial masters, refined and manufactured into finished goods, and sold for extremely high profit on what is known as the global market leaving the citizens of the parasite's host barely even to afford the products made possible by their cheap labor and hazardous working conditions.

I would recommend reading the Open Veins of Latin America, but your Euro-centric elitism will just dismiss it as having zero value and nothing more than a Cold War propaganda piece. Our last century of global "economic development assistance programs" are a legacy of dependency, plundering, government overthrows, support of murderous dictators enforcing European finance and corporate agendas across the world. I would add the USA as well, but since our sovereignty was usurped by European finance and their political lobbyists last century as well when the Federal reserve was created it all technically falls back to Europe and the Royal families who maintain dominating shareholder status through their holding companies in big finance, pharmaceuticals and industrial production.

If African states are preferring deals with the Russians, then it may be time for the Western system to adapt to changing sentiments around the world and offer more favorable, mutually acceptable terms for development assistance rather than "sell everything your country owns to our foreign interests and we will give you loans not to develop the primary infrastructure, but just to develop the mines, wells, and other production hubs and build shipping directly to the ports."

Then they can just blame the corrupt leaders, who gladly reap the benefits of bank deposits and dividends through their gifted shares of the parasite companies. The sad truth is, the real globalists are and have always been the European financial dynasties and Monarchs.