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originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: MrInquisitive
I have my bones to pick with him from when he pushed Bush II's and Cheney's WMD lies about Iraq.
They weren't lying.
They did have WMD and moved them into Syria just before the 2nd Gulf war. Candy Vice dropped the National Security Card on the DHS in the Southern District of New York Court in 2005 as over a dozen international warrants for arrest were being requested. The entire investigation was shut down. Candy worked for Bush II
I am compromised by this. They also got everyone who held a Top Secret Security Clearance as per CIA Spook who appeared on NetFlix documentary ~ SpyCraft
OPM Breech Cyberattack
PM me
originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: MrInquisitive
I would be careful how much stock you put in anything coming out of the FBI about extremism. For one, it's rather ironic you trust what they say considering the widespread belief you're conveying that the Bush administration--including the intelligence agencies--cooked up the WMD story as an excuse to invade Iraq. It's worth noting that, since 9/11, there are a lot of doors swinging back and forth between the FBI and the CIA and other intelligence agencies, whereas before that they were mostly independent of each other. So if you don't trust the other agencies, I don't see how you can trust the FBI.
Even if you discount that, have you looked harder at some of these "right wing extremist" cases the FBI documents? Yes, some of them are legit right wing nuts, but there are also people whom calling "right wing" is a flat out joke. For example, they pretty much automatically label anyone with anti-government attitudes as a right winger, whether they actually hold any right wing values or not. I'll remind you that antifa are an anti-government group that are all left wingers and committed plenty of terrorist acts. You won't find many of those cases in the FBI reports about domestic political terrorism though. Nor will your find much of the BLM political violence which is, by definition, terrorism.
On this subject, there's also a lot of dishonest conflating of racism with right-wing extremism, like that's an automatic connection and no one on the left can be racist, which is obviously demonstrably false. Many communist figures have racist attitudes. Again, look harder at the actual cases. In some of them, the ONLY indication of political leanings that they'll cite is that the perpetrator had racist views. That does not make one inherently left or right leaning, so if that's their only reason for calling him a right-wing extremist, that's a dishonest classification.
Why they're dishonestly trying to inflate the number of right wing extremist cases is another question.
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: MrInquisitive
I have my bones to pick with him from when he pushed Bush II's and Cheney's WMD lies about Iraq.
They weren't lying.
They did have WMD and moved them into Syria just before the 2nd Gulf war. Candy Vice dropped the National Security Card on the DHS in the Southern District of New York Court in 2005 as over a dozen international warrants for arrest were being requested. The entire investigation was shut down. Candy worked for Bush II
I am compromised by this. They also got everyone who held a Top Secret Security Clearance as per CIA Spook who appeared on NetFlix documentary ~ SpyCraft
OPM Breech Cyberattack
PM me
Worth noting that one of the people who believe Iraq transferred its WMD to Syria was President Obama's DNI James Clapper. You know, the guy that's a left-wing hero now.
Also worth noting that a lot of the intelligence used to make the determination that Iraq still had WMD programs was compiled under the Clinton administration. Clinton, being in his lame duck years and having already been through the Lewinsky scandal, didn't think he had enough political capital left to do anything about it in the final years of his presidency.
Also worth noting that coalition soldiers did find old stockpiles of WMD in Iraq. I did a thread about it a few years ago. It was reported in plenty of Democrat news outlets like the NY Times. There's a VA program for soldiers to report exposure to it, because some were burned and suffered other injuries handling the shells. The stockpiles were old and many were deteriorated, but some were still usable. Chemical weapons have a shelf life but once they're past that date, they're not just safe, no more than a bottle of medication is safe to swallow once it expires.
I don't see how the SDNY Court would have jurisdiction on the transfer of WMD's between the two
originally posted by: Waterglass
Title shortened to Fit.
Did Adam Schiff open the door on this as he wasted years of the Russia hoax against President Trump. He was in charge of the Intelligence Committee. Actually, that Russia attempted to do this on US soil may force all those traitors among us to be exposed as those loyal to the USA will now have to regroup, rebrand and do the job.
Schiff chaired the House Intelligence Committee from 2019 to 2023 and was removed from it by Speaker Kevin McCarthy in 2023.
A 2020 attempt by Russian agents to target and kill a CIA asset on U.S. soil signals a major shift in how the U.S. intelligence community assesses the threat faced by foreign informants who are vital to U.S. intelligence gathering.
Russian Assassination Attempt
Earlier this week, The New York Times revealed an unprecedented attempt by Moscow to pursue Aleksandr Poteyev, a former high-ranking Russian intelligence officer turned informant for the CIA who was living in Miami.