Here's an Idea - Mass Shootings

originally posted by: Violater1
Here is the head shot from the body-cam of the officer. I can't understand why they pixelated shooter Aden's head, but you can see some red boxes in the photo. Pronouns: was/were.

www.zerohedge.com...

Pronounds are now "Was / Were"... I'm dying!

Love how the officer put like 3 or 4 more rounds into "it" after it was already down while yelling "stop moving". It was clearly kill on sight.

originally posted by: Thrumbo
Unpopular opinion but, I honestly don't think people should be able to buy machine guns. Ban assault weapons.

They'll have to commit the school shooting with handguns. Those are technically better at close range anyways but I guess it makes it too personal instead of like playing Call of Duty.

That might deter more school shooters because they'd have to use a handgun instead and it makes it too personal.

Would you ban deer rifles too then?
You can’t even see those they come from so far away.

Did the nut use a machine gun?
I missed that info?

a reply to: Thrumbo

IT IS ALREADY ILLEGAL TO PURCHASE A MACHINEGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no such thing as an assault weapon

This crime was committed with a semi auto rifle that uses pistol mags, based on the pictures I have seen, not the big bad black rifle that the media wants it to be in these situations.

The guns(a tool) are not the problem, and have never been the problem. Just the same as when someone drinks and drives and kills a family of four, the person is to blame not the car(a tool) used to do it.

a reply to: PorkChop96

I agree with the spirit of what you are saying, but I just wanted to add a couple clarifications so this discussion doesn't get dragged down into a firearms debate which would be off-topic.

Machine guns - The Nashville 'murderer / terrorist' did NOT possess a fully automatic weapon or 'machinegun'. However, Civilians are in fact allowed to legally purchase and own fully automatic firearms (aka 'machineguns'), IF the firearms were manufactured before 1986, AND the owner files the correct paperwork with the BATF (and it is approved) as well as pays the resultant fees. Civilians are prohibited from owning fully automatic firearms manufactured after 1986.

"Assault Rifle" - Is a hotly debated term in the political spectrum, and as such I won't make a comment other than to say...an "AR" rifles does not stand for "Assault Rifle", but instead only enumerates a model of rifle made by ARmalite called the model #15, hence 'AR-15' references.

Nashville Attack - The murderer used (3) firearms in the attack. One was a Kel-Tec P-2000 semi-auto which utilizes 9mm ammunition and pistol compatible magazines. The second was an AR-15 style semi-auto firearm (brand unclear) which uses .223 / 5.56mm ammunition and magazines. The third was a S&W 9mm semi-auto pistol. My suspicion is the 9mm firearms were the principle firearms used, simply because the .223 would have been painfully loud to shoot in an enclosed space like inside the school.

Just want to be clear on some of the reasonably well established facts at this point in time.

Otherwise, I agree with your sentiments.

a reply to: UpThenDown

I can't believe we live in a time where these videos have to caption "may be upsetting to some viewers" when all you see are police searching a building and the sound of gunshots. They don't even show the kill shot to that loony bitch.

originally posted by: malte85

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: UpThenDown

Great, and thanks. However, where is the video of the perp laying on the floor struggling to breathe? Where's that wide-eyed facial expression which speaks a thousand words...'this is not what I expected it to be like at ALL!' Where is that video??

Legal issues be damned! Show it! This is a mass-murdering terrorist, period! They are entitled to...nothing! Nothing! Not one single dignity!

for such things there is dark net, where you can probably watch every #. in a civilized society where it is also about the protection of children and young people, who should certainly not see such things, this should not be a topic. criminals have rights too. law and order.

Criminals disregard law and order, why should they benefit from it?

I don't think the type of people that do this would be effected by it

We need better mental health treatment

Taking someone who has mental issues talking to them 1 hr a week and tossing drugs at them doesn't work

In almost every case the shooter was in therapy and on some form of SSRI ... Clearly this is not working

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
As to your consequences, I hope the dr that treated the murderer is held to account, and I hope that school recovers and remedies it’s security.
Either could have prevented the murders yesterday.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I hate it that a "collective" is now in a round about way finding excuses for the shooter. This has no excuse. None. But even as we speak, Leftist media is hammering on Christians/gun owners and anyone else they can think of, instead of putting the blame squarely where it belongs.
The shooter.

www.foxnews.com...


Nice to see ya bud. Was starting to think you were 1 second too slow gettin' away from that bull.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
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If you are the type of person who wants to do this. In all the countries of the world, it is easy to get a gun, the people of most countries are the same. So how come this seems to happen the most in America, not Brazil or Ecuador? Or the middle east where an AK 47 is a mark of macho manhood. It is looking a bit suspect.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I hate it that a "collective" is now in a round about way finding excuses for the shooter. This has no excuse. None. But even as we speak, Leftist media is hammering on Christians/gun owners and anyone else they can think of, instead of putting the blame squarely where it belongs.
The shooter.

www.foxnews.com...


Nice to see ya bud. Was starting to think you were 1 second too slow gettin' away from that bull.

I noticed the far left progressive libs in my community are awfully quiet. Any other mass shootings, they are all over facebook posting about the "far right" and guns, but yet today it is nothing but crickets. I can only assume it is because a tranny doesn't fit their preconceived narrative.

a reply to: malte85

criminals have rights too. law and order.

Yes , in cases like this here is the Miranda Rights :
" You have the right to remain dead .
Anything you can't say will be held against you in a court of law .
You have the right to have an attorney , that you will not need .
And since you will not need one , one will not be appointed if you cannot afford one.
With these rights in mind, are you still willing to stay silent with me about the charges against you ?

Won’t work.

Shooters expect to die.

Arm the kids, starting at daycare.
Put shooting ranges in the gym.
Bullet dispensers in the restrooms

This would be a great idea, and it is, but I just don't see those in government actually wanting it all to stop.

What they are doing is systematic in getting effective guns out of the hands of patriotic law abiding citizens because patriotic law (constitution) abiding citizens are a big threat to what they are doing. They want more shootings to happen to help get guns away from those who want America to respect the rights and things that made us all free (once).

They use terms like getting "weapons of war" away from citizens, but don't mention how police and enforcement people will definitely be keeping their weapons of war, so who are they planning going to war with? Freedom loving Americans.

pardons if its been mentioned, but didn't they try this with some guy named Floyd? Went over about like a turd in a punch bowl..I mean Your hired and all, but its not gonna be that sanitary..(professional sarcasm)

If the attention to detail is reflected then I suppose you'll be working for free. I been working on an idea for a while now..I call it Face Fishing…You know how the nasal and throat passages connect..yea a plastic coated monofilament with an operator on one end and an ultralite rig with a medium size jitterbug on the other..immobilized subject..every wrong answer operator reels in a bit more line..picture the line being reeled through the nose and in to the mouth…yeah man..lets spin a yarn..

I mean the idea need some refinement..like the word immobilized..you of course want hands and feet free to maneuver..you know trying to stop the inevitable plop plop of the jitterbug..dude if you've never fished with a jitterbug by moonlight on calm water you're missing out.

We should focus on taking them alive for analysis..ya know, just in case they were indeed groomed and there was a rock we didn't turn over..we have lots of questions..I think that should be part of the footage you suggest as well..accountability, five minutes of death throws for a lifetime of anguish just doesn't seem fair..those folks deserve whatever kind of closure they want in the moment, and a 25 cent bullet and some close up blood gurgle doesn't put the right ,..face on things.



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originally posted by: malte85
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

the people take their death into account. otherwise you wouldn't do something like that. they have probably already looked at scary stuff on the internet, they know how destructive weapons can be.

one should rather think about how it can be that anyone can own a rapid fire weapon, no matter if this person is dangerous or harmless. and where the hatred comes from that incites people to such acts. and why the usa is the world leader when it comes to such rampages. some crude wild west methods will rather not solving this problem.

when you violate another persons right to life you should be forfeiting your rights to a trial and expectation to live. We should educaute people that your right to trial and arrest are waived if you are caught in comission of a murder or attempted murder.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Here’s an Idea

Maybe pass some EFN common sense gun control legislation.

Not "confiscating firearms," but passing red flag laws, comprehensive background checks, and maybe, just maybe, saying "HEY! people can't just buy assault rifles in mass!"

Once the weapons ban in the 90s was lifted, mass shootings and deaths skyrocketed. FACT.

But hey, let's ban books and drag shows because THEY have (not) killed so many children.

EFN ridiculous.

originally posted by: Thrumbo
Unpopular opinion but, I honestly don't think people should be able to buy machine guns. Ban assault weapons.

They'll have to commit the school shooting with handguns. Those are technically better at close range anyways but I guess it makes it too personal instead of like playing Call of Duty.

That might deter more school shooters because they'd have to use a handgun instead and it makes it too personal.

Posts like this are what happens when people who don't know what they are talking about parrot party rhetoric.

People cant buy machine guns. Assault weapons are already banned and have been for many years. No machine guns or assault weapons were used in this shooting. Unless you use the "new" liberal definition of an assault weapon which is: "whatever gun we feel like targeting next".

Places like Deerfield, Illinois put a list of banned "assault rifles" on the village website a few years ago. The list included several shotguns and hand guns...in an "assault rifle" ban. It amounted to nothing more than feel-good politics for creating a new law to ban rifles that were already partially banned beginning in 1939 and completely banned in 1968. That is how long assault rifles have been illegal in the US. So whenever you hear some parrot talking about banning assault rifles you can immediately gage their knowledge of the subject accurately. And ignore them.

consequences wont help change a crazy persons thinking. They do not care about consequences.. that is why they do what they do. Almost all the mass shooters were on either antidepressants or hormones which i think are contributing factors. we have to look at what is different before the mass shootings started. when i was young people had guns, kids could bring their rifles to school on the back of their trucks and no one shot everyone when they got angry. What changed? a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Here’s an Idea

Maybe pass some EFN common sense gun control legislation.

Not "confiscating firearms," but passing red flag laws, comprehensive background checks, and maybe, just maybe, saying "HEY! people can't just buy assault rifles in mass!"

Once the weapons ban in the 90s was lifted, mass shootings and deaths skyrocketed. FACT.

But hey, let's ban books and drag shows because THEY have (not) killed so many children.

EFN ridiculous.

Pure gibberish.

We already have red flag laws, background checks, and, believe it or not - assault rifles are already illegal. They have been for decades.

Here is an idea - why not get the kid with the mental illness some real help instead of surrounding them with a bunch of enablers? Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Treating it like a fun choice that can be made by 7 year old children is not the solution to anything except the liberal left agenda.