Electro vibrational experiments on granite

a reply to: anonentity

The reason there is no cap on the GP is probably that they realized the limits of their accuracy.
The Vatican kept the tip of the spear that killed Christ.
There is a remainder for the riddle of the Sphinx.

The reason there is no cap on the GP is probably that they realized the limits of their accuracy.

That’s a rather strange assumption. a reply to: Bordon81

I watched a interesting video on the Moai legend has it they walked into place - In the video there were 2 teams one on each side with ropes tied to the neck on the Moai and they actually walked the Moai down the path by pulling each side back and forth . So it is possible that brute force and physics were involved . The Moai was moving pretty quickly also wasn't a labor at all .

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
I watched a interesting video on the Moai legend has it they walked into place - In the video there were 2 teams one on each side with ropes tied to the neck on the Moai and they actually walked the Moai down the path by pulling each side back and forth . So it is possible that brute force and physics were involved . The Moai was moving pretty quickly also wasn't a labor at all .

The walking system works, them BUT only on level ground. Going up hill or from the quarry at Rano Raraku down hill doesn't work well.

originally posted by: Bordon81
a reply to: anonentity

The reason there is no cap on the GP is probably that they realized the limits of their accuracy.
The Vatican kept the tip of the spear that killed Christ.
There is a remainder for the riddle of the Sphinx.

It was probably not knocked off in antiquity or classical times, Herodotus nor any of the ancient writers mentioned any of the pyramids missing the top. The chance that centuries after the event, if it occurred at all, they would find THAT particular pilum is vanishingly remote. At present there are at least four major relics that claimed to be the 'Holy Lance' or parts of it. The first one claiming to be it was found about 500 years after the 'event'.

a reply to: Hanslune

Double post

originally posted by: Bordon81
a reply to: Hanslune

I don't have a THAT for you but probably some time BC if not part of the original vision.
If this is debatable like Persephone and the pomegranate seeds it will continue to be debated.

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: charlyv
Piezo effect. Virbrate granite, you are vibrating quartz grains in granite.
Vibrate or strike quartz produces an electrical output.
Electromagnetic effects can be produced depending upon the application.

Yep and if it were useful there are entire mountain ranges and plates made of granite and under pressure yet no one uses that 'power'.

That is the problem with quartz under constant pressure, in situ it needs a sudden delta pressure increase above what it is already experiencing. Earthquake lights are most likely caused by powerful fractures in granite.

To vibrate it violently, it will emit sparks but presently the amount of power to do this would outweigh any measurable voltage that could be captured. No Free Lunch here.

Tesla studied quartz and piezo phenomena, but if he discovered anything useful, all of his work was confiscated by the government.... and I am sure if there was free energy discovered with granite, they would probably burn his papers as well.

So, we are left with charcoal igniters, tuning crystals and most electronic musical instruments you can imagine (especially electronic drums).

Perhaps something else will be discovered that unlocks the energy in quartz.

a reply to: charlyv

Leroy Brown kept a razor in his shoe.
Some speculate it was because blue steel razor blades had a semiconducting oxide coating that could be used with a pencil lead for a detector. The lead point touching the semiconducting oxide coating (magnetite) would tune outlaw pirate stations.
The Germans could detect regenerative radio receivers back then.

But this thread works better with the GP era not the Halley's Comet upgrade to consumer MSM tools.
The pyramids were big and had a visual draw for miles around and the inspiration was location location location!

originally posted by: charlyv

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: charlyv
Piezo effect. Virbrate granite, you are vibrating quartz grains in granite.
Vibrate or strike quartz produces an electrical output.
Electromagnetic effects can be produced depending upon the application.

Yep and if it were useful there are entire mountain ranges and plates made of granite and under pressure yet no one uses that 'power'.

That is the problem with quartz under constant pressure, in situ it needs a sudden delta pressure increase above what it is already experiencing. Earthquake lights are most likely caused by powerful fractures in granite.

To vibrate it violently, it will emit sparks but presently the amount of power to do this would outweigh any measurable voltage that could be captured. No Free Lunch here.

Tesla studied quartz and piezo phenomena, but if he discovered anything useful, all of his work was confiscated by the government.... and I am sure if there was free energy discovered with granite, they would probably burn his papers as well.

So, we are left with charcoal igniters, tuning crystals and most electronic musical instruments you can imagine (especially electronic drums).

Perhaps something else will be discovered that unlocks the energy in quartz.

They confiscated it for one day to see if it contained anything dangerous (he claimed he had a death ray) as he was a foreign national of a country then allied with the Nazis - it was all given back. Yes, because governments of the world over don't want 'free energy', for their military or especially with those countries without oil and coal. Solar and wind are also 'free energy' but you need infrastructure to capture it and send it anywhere.

a reply to: Hanslune

Here is a scientific explanation of what we know about quartz crystals, Of how it produces an electrical charge and, what it does if a charge is passed through them. The copper on the hidden shafts on the GP theoretically could be wired up, and drumming in the accending corridor, would produce a warping of the crystalline structure. And thus produce a charge.

originally posted by: anonentity

a reply to: Hanslune

Here is a scientific explanation of what we know about quartz crystals, Of how it produces an electrical charge and, what it does if a charge is passed through them. The copper on the hidden shafts on the GP theoretically could be wired up, and drumming in the accending corridor, would produce a warping of the crystalline structure.

And thus produce a charge.

You mean the small copper knobs? Set in limestone? What sort of silly arrangement was this? Why put them in an irrationally twisting narrow pathways? I believe the ascending corridor is made of limestone.

I also believe the grey areas are where granite was used. qph.cf2.quoracdn.net...

So, what would they do with a 'charge'?

a reply to: Hanslune

You have all that weight pressing down on the granite, it would be changing pressure throughout the day, and cooling down during the night.I am just saying that looking at what granite seems to do, plus the way that their maths was so developed, your guess is as good as mine.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune

You have all that weight pressing down on the granite, it would be changing pressure throughout the day, and cooling down during the night.I am just saying that looking at what granite seems to do, plus the way that their maths was so developed, your guess is as good as mine.

As noted before folks don't use massive granite mountains and plates for 'power'. The main problem why would they have needed 'power', with nothing to 'power'?

You have all that weight pressing down on the granite, it would be changing pressure throughout the day, and cooling down during the night.I am just saying that looking at what granite seems to do, plus the way that their maths was so developed, your guess is as good as mine.

Yep, plenty of guesses from Egyptology, about a great many things ; we all know that. Egyptologists just don’t want YOU to know that .

Don’t worry about those on here talking to you with an air of self-appointed authority, they aren’t here for debate , and they all routinely guess about this ancient culture just as much as you, I, or anyone.

Who knows what the AE might want to ‘power’ in this way? It may be something completely out of our scope of modern thinking in terms of ‘power’ and for what .
Who knows?
THEY certainly don’t have a monopoly on what should be ‘considered’, neither should we let them.

They rebut ‘precision’ and are wrong
They act as if they know all that is to be found and known , yet this week it is revealed to the public that there are more internal spaces in the GP.
What if spaces in the Khafre pyramid are identified with Muon tech? Not just the GP?
There’s so much space for more knowledge , and they know it, we know it.

One thing is for sure: Hans or Harte don’t have any special knowledge that should lead anyone to think they can diffuse intelligent conceptual musings on this matter.
THEY wouldn’t know what the AE might want to ‘power’ either .
They aren’t time travellers with the final evidence , neither are they engineers.



a reply to: anonentity

a reply to: bluesfreak

The moment that they found out the intricacies of the Antyklithera mechanism all bets should have been taken off the table. Add in the Baghdad batteries, and it looks like at least a small few ancients knew a lot more than they have been given credit for..

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: bluesfreak

The moment that they found out the intricacies of the Antyklithera mechanism all bets should have been taken off the table. Add in the Baghdad batteries, and it looks like at least a small few ancients knew a lot more than they have been given credit for..

Ah, why? Those types of devices were written about. They aren't powered and are not from antiquity but the classical periods. The Antie device is a quite a marvel but it shows the limit of their 'advancement'. it's set for a geocentric solar system and not heliocentric. The batteries are also from a later period and as found would not have produced any power. www.nmfrc.org...

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune

You have all that weight pressing down on the granite, it would be changing pressure throughout the day, and cooling down during the night.I am just saying that looking at what granite seems to do, plus the way that their maths was so developed, your guess is as good as mine.

..and how much 'power' would such an arrangement create?

a reply to: Hanslune



Depends this guy got half a volt by slapping a crystal with a weed whacker, That was with two strings whacking it. Around the seven min mark.www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune



Depends this guy got half a volt by slapping a crystal with a weed whacker, That was with two strings whacking it. Around the seven min mark.www.youtube.com...

Interesting fellow, yeah he got a small amount of energy however getting usable 'current' from granite inside a structure made of limestone. Not to mention having nothing to use the 'current' for.

Of course he was using a pure crystal not smaller crystals spread through granite. Electricity does not conduct well through granite.

The video speaks to using granite and he makes a good point you are getting DC not AC also why put a few blocks of granite into a vast structure of limestone? Why not just put granite in a mass and get your piezo power?

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The Great Pyramid at Giza used to function as an interstellar lighthouse beaming out the 21cm hydrogen line. The structure used to vibrate from a hydraulic water hammer pulse generator which would be focused via the pyramid electromagnetic energy lense in the grand gallery and kings chamber whereby piezoelectricity was generated. Christopher Dunn and JJ Hurtak elaborate quite extensively on how this would work and I'm about 99% sure they are correct.

One of the comments from some of following videos. Loved it.