Who is Satan to you?

I done a recent thread: Who is Jesus to you?

It has a lot of different views, perspective and questions with what it is all about. There are some strong convictions with good directions expressed, also some doubt and uncertainty as our trust is constantly under attack these days. In the interest of balance and to try and get some situational awareness with the spiritual battles going on. Who is Satan to you?

To start, I see Satan as the one in charge at the Kingdom of Darkness. A place that contains the souls of the lost and dammed. In its lore, a lot of strong and powerful entities, able to access some hidden knowledge and and other paranormal powers. It power is not absolute and is more of a place that the universe has to put those in the too hard basket.

There are lots of different words, factions and interpretations around. The basic idea of the illumanti seeking knowledge is not a bad thing, Jesus and many others love wisdom and the truth. As for how knowledge is hidden leads more into the illuminaughty. Satan is a master of lies, depict and other trickery to steal what it can.

To get past these challenges does require a strong moral heart to save who we can and avoid falling into the pitfalls that surround us. In some ways, Satan is an agent of death, cleaning out the trash that builds up as the universe tries to find a better way through all the complex and diverse things going on.

The Great Experiment is much more multi-layered than just God and Satan.

a reply to: kwakakev
An old friend.. a friendly face in the darkness and illuminates the path ahead .... I was hungry once the kind soul that he is offered me an apple...
I eat from the tree of knowledge and the tree of life it is my birthright

a reply to: Hiram33

That.....is beautiful.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

The experiement is much more multi-layered than just God and Satan.

Sure. On a practical sense what is our place in it and do we navigate it? Religion has provided the basis of law in many cultures for a long time. With a growing diversity of religions and tweaks in some of its principles, the legal system is bogged down in lawfare with its might has right approach at times.

Is there any difference in how we approach this game of life, out for our self or mindful of the impacts we have on reality while not always knowing the details. Is it worth taking the long, narrow hard road or just throw it all away? If there is nothing on the other side as some believe, perhaps it don't matter? If there is much more to the cosmic story we are yet to comprehend, maybe it does matter?

Just what kind of eternal ramifications are there with the decisions we make? Would we choose differently if we knew instead of having it in the hands of faith?

a reply to: kwakakev

Would you recognize and appreciate Heaven more if you'd spent your life walking through Hell?

If I'm going to be spending eternity in Heavenly Grace, I'd want something to write about that's somewhat original.

WIthout direct experience, there are no new stories.

What a terrible Heavenly Library!

There's only ONE BOOK!

a reply to: GENERAL EYES
The darkness came before the light and in the darkness the light was born
Much like the initiate stripped bare and alone venturing into the cave to emerge later as an illuminated being

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

Would you recognize and appreciate Heaven more if you'd spent your life walking through Hell?

Probably not, maybe more like one of those in a concentration camp when the gates finally opened. They did not know what to do so just stayed there.

I do appreciate the days being pain free, they are nice. I am trying to look for this love of the world Jesus was going on about. When I have had those days of a more vibrant appreciation of the world, something unexpectedly ends up dead by the end of it.

I don't know what heaven has to hold, some theories, some hope. Just have to wait to really know.

a reply to: kwakakev

He's even less a historical figure that the other dude, so I guess another archetype on the loose.

a reply to: kwakakev

Mythologically:

Iblis, Ahriman, Kali, Akuma, and any one of the corrupting malevolent spirits that are a motif of dualist religion. In nondual religions "Satan" is merely the negative part of a single God's plan. Some forms of Judaism point to Job specifically as an out-of-context way to illustrate that even evil is the will of a single god. Everything (good and evil) are God, hence nondual.


Psychologically in Western Culture:

Satan represents adversity and woe. A placeholder for the malaise and paranoia. The things that beset happiness. When it is feared but known to be countered by a more powerful god, it's harm is limited.

But what happens when one disolves that psychological "valley of the shadow of death" confidence of good protecting them and embraces evil?

Embracing Satan is like metaphysical methamphetamine and should be left to those who understand the very real "evil" that lies within the collective unconscious.

Embracing sinister archetypes seems to really make the abyss stare back when really delved into. Beyond the platitude even.

For example: Kid angry at religious indoctrination gets into The Lesser Key of Solomon and wants Purson to be their Patron demon on their path to Satanic Superman power. They read online how to make communion and before you know it they create a thoughtform of their patron demon. Now their belief is validated and their world becomes somewhat scripted by whatever mythos they put into their practice.

It is in many respects the psychological realism to "demonic possession" whereby belief in its existence conjures exactly what it's supposed to.

How close it can get The Exocist (sans the rotating head) could make believers out of a skeptic. Conjure Pazuzu myth and end up like that girl. It can happen.

Now they pitch their voice, crook their head, and have disembodied voices of their unconscious driving them insane and coming out as gibberish. All because they started reading crap on the internet about _____ and playing out that belief.

Like meth, a path to deranged self-destruction for almost everyone.

Of course for the Luciferian he works like Jesus.

But them aside, How many have driven themselves insane on the occult webs? How many people has JoyofSatan.com driven insane with all their quasi-neonazi-ancient-aliens-demons shtick?

Too freaking many.

a reply to: Terpene

He's even less a historical figure that the other dude, so I guess another archetype on the loose.

The kind of culture that Satan holds from my perspective goes back a lot further in time than Jesus. It is a more jungle rules approach to life. Got things like Moloch, Baal and what drove the Aztecs with their sacrifices. From one view, Satan was one of the early angles that told God to stick it, I will do it my way. So off Satan went to find out the hard way of what it is all about.

In today's culture, a lot more books about Jesus than Satan are getting sold. As for when starting to look at some of the culture that emerges when following the money and how it works, psychopathic tendencies to tend to rise up the top with their win at all cost approach to things.

a reply to: Degradation33

Good description. How some people create these psychological attachments that can take many years to manifest is a bit like having an imaginary friend slowly grow around you. In cases of perfect possession where the host and attachment are happy, nothing a priest can do about it. In the cases where there is a big conflict, a priest can help guide a host to regain control. Dangerous for all involved.

Seams like the exorcism thing can also create a lot of problems with the minor cases and no one really knowing exactly what they are doing.

Satan is probably the most deceptive "Wolf in sheep's clothing".

a reply to: boozo

So the good guy is just the bad guy in disguise? I've been pondering that for many moons...

a reply to: kwakakev

In today's culture, a lot more books about Jesus than Satan are getting sold. As for when starting to look at some of the culture that emerges when following the money and how it works, psychopathic tendencies to tend to rise up the top with their win at all cost approach to things.

If you want to draw that connection, wouldn't it imply that those psychopath tendencies are induced by the most divulged doctrines?

Satan is all that is evil in the world...that intentionally seeks to destroy all that is productive for the benefit of the planet and it dwellers....satan can blow me
a reply to: kwakakev

a reply to: Terpene

If you want to draw that connection, wouldn't it imply that those psychopath tendencies are induced by the most divulged doctrines?

In some ways I guess so. As a pack of wolfs are induced by the flock of sheep grassing out in the open.

Satan to me is the Pope, whichever one is current. It doesn't matter who it is because they are all as evil as can be.
They are the leaders of the biggest pedophile ring ever created, in the guise of "religion"

All God's children priests say huh?

A priest is found guilty of inhumane life damaging and disgusting beyond belief atrocoties, and the current pope of the time moves said priest to a different diocese.

Continue on there good priest huh.

They were only told to stand down when they were found out and reported to the media.

a reply to: Faeded

satan can blow me

Careful what you wish for

Who is Satan to me ?…. One word ….. “Biden “. I’m kidding , I don’t really think Biden is Satan. but I do think he has sold his soul to Satan. Therefore, to me , Satan is the bad guy who manipulates people to do Bad things.… At least that is the easiest to believe in this crazy world …... Otherwise,You could argue there is no such thing as Satan . It’s just a myth . And ,we are all really bad people , with bad DNA genetics , and evil
Is engrained in all of us. We are descendants from a long line of criminals , thugs , and gang members . Maybe Earth was once an intergalactic prison , and we are the descendants of what once was …… Either way , I will keep believing Satan is the grand manipulator , evil and chaos .