Putin says Russia wants end to war in Ukraine

a reply to: putnam6

I just ran this through AI...

Instead of talks, the best move for Russia is to send low-yield nukes (made in another country) up through the southern border and take out DC. Then the US wouldn't be able to know where to go next, and the southern border would be closed.

Win, win for taxpayers, southern states, and Russia. LOL

🤣

Kind of the U.S.'s fault? The U.S. began to push for NATO expansion during the late 1990s, and their own policymakers warned that if they did this then Ukraine would be manipulated through regime change and Russia would react aggressively. Guess what happened.

originally posted by: vNex92

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: putnam6

Putin could end it this very minute with one order.
He won't.

"diplomatic solution" means he gets what he wants and Ukraine gets what he allows.

Ukraine has to accept those lands that are lost.

Ukraine doesn't have to accept anything, they weren't the aggressors here. Russia has to accept they have lost here, the west can spend more and has more firepower and military to take and hold whatever territory they need to. Now even if Putin holds Crimea and the eastern Ukrainian territory there will definitely always be turmoil and fighting.

originally posted by: imitator
a reply to: putnam6

I just ran this through AI...

Instead of talks, the best move for Russia is to send low-yield nukes (made in another country) up through the southern border and take out DC. Then the US wouldn't be able to know where to go next, and the southern border would be closed.

Win, win for taxpayers, southern states, and Russia. LOL

🤣

What countries are making low-yield nukes for Russia, and #2 smuggling nukes across the border isn't exactly easy pretty sure they have nuke sniffers on the ground and in the air #3 Russia would be a smoking cinder even if the attack was successful

nut more importantly where is this AI it would be fun to pick lottery numbers

All we can do is hope for the best so young lives needlessly dying for absolutely nothing but Putin’s vile ego can be saved.

The Russian people have absolutely no investment in this war. That’s why they’ll lose just like America in Vietnam and Afghanistan, and like Russia lost in Afghanistan in the 80s.

If Putin sincerely wants peace and only to save face, it's worth calling his bluff for the sake of peace.


Certainly, the West and Ukraine won't be bamboozled by Putin. He's lost all credibility.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Certainly, the West and Ukraine won't be bamboozled by Putin. He's lost all credibility.

Already have.

100 billion reasons.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: putnam6

He could stop it right now.

Should us Brits have sat down round a table with Hitler?

But,but ,but Hitler!
You never fail to provide the simpleton Anglo Saxon angle.

a reply to: putnam6

Most of the world actually knows what is going down in Ukraine, the West with its allowed narratives hasn't got much of a clue. Sure Putin wants an end to it, they didn't even want to have to start it. But as they prepare a winter offensive to finish it, at least he seems to have left an olive branch on the table.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: imitator
a reply to: putnam6

I just ran this through AI...

Instead of talks, the best move for Russia is to send low-yield nukes (made in another country) up through the southern border and take out DC. Then the US wouldn't be able to know where to go next, and the southern border would be closed.

Win, win for taxpayers, southern states, and Russia. LOL

🤣

What countries are making low-yield nukes for Russia, and #2 smuggling nukes across the border isn't exactly easy pretty sure they have nuke sniffers on the ground and in the air #3 Russia would be a smoking cinder even if the attack was successful

nut more importantly where is this AI it would be fun to pick lottery numbers

I would take it with a grain of salt...
They also have a Joe Biden AI... I asked it about Hunter's laptop, said it didn't know what I was talking about lol.

Russia does claim to have undetectable nukes, and the border is wide open. The US would have to prove Russia did it before turning them to glass...

Maybe Ai is on to something?

originally posted by: vNex92

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: putnam6

Putin could end it this very minute with one order.
He won't.

"diplomatic solution" means he gets what he wants and Ukraine gets what he allows.

Ukraine has to accept those lands that are lost.

They seriously don’t though… just so long as they have the full support of the US, Ukraine has the upper hand in this conflict.

End of the day, Russia is a impoverished country… with a population triple the size of Canada and a lower GPD… lol.

All Russia has is a bunch of Soviet era nukes, it’s the only reason anyones taking them seriously.

But in reality they can’t actually use them, since it would just result in a really bad year for the entire world, but would also result in Russia as a nation ceasing to exist.

All Russia has is a bunch of Soviet era nukes, it’s the only reason anyones taking them seriously.

Is this Soviet era?

originally posted by: imitator

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: imitator
a reply to: putnam6

I just ran this through AI...

Instead of talks, the best move for Russia is to send low-yield nukes (made in another country) up through the southern border and take out DC. Then the US wouldn't be able to know where to go next, and the southern border would be closed.

Win, win for taxpayers, southern states, and Russia. LOL

🤣

What countries are making low-yield nukes for Russia, and #2 smuggling nukes across the border isn't exactly easy pretty sure they have nuke sniffers on the ground and in the air #3 Russia would be a smoking cinder even if the attack was successful

nut more importantly where is this AI it would be fun to pick lottery numbers

I would take it with a grain of salt...
They also have a Joe Biden AI... I asked it about Hunter's laptop, said it didn't know what I was talking about lol.

Russia does claim to have undetectable nukes, and the border is wide open. The US would have to prove Russia did it before turning them to glass...

Maybe Ai is on to something?

Ha okay you never know these days, hell even way back in 70's highschool they introduced a computer class and I joined it. We literally did the punch card "programs" but even then the teacher was talking about Artificial Intelligence as basically the Holy Grail. AI as he touted it would do exactly as you are saying.

FWIW some are suggesting TPTB has just followed AI's suggestions for a while now, we probably have a Cray telling Biden to send 45 billion to Ukraine among other decisions.

If nothing else I'm am impressed with our intelligence community so far they have seemed to be pretty spot on, lol so who knows

a reply to: didntasktobeborned

Even if they posses a weapon like that, so what?

What is it that they could actually do with it that wouldn’t put Russia in the history books as a long forgotten civilization?

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Putin wants to end it?

Let’s just entertain that BS statement for a minute… which would inevitably lead us to the question of why he started it in the first place?

Not like they’ve gained anything from it… in fact, all they’ve done is lose from it.

Truth be told though, it is kind of the US’s fault this war is costing them so much.

Russia deployed there army to the Ukrainian border and claimed it was just a military exorcise and that they had no intention of invading… which in hindsight was just like a starving feral dog testing the waters seeing if it was safe to go in and collect the scraps.

The US should of put boots on the ground in Ukraine the second that happened and warned Russia to not cross the border… if they had of done that, then this meaningless BS war never would have started in the first place.

Riiight !!

Instant direct conflict between US and Russia - WW3

Brillant move there, Einstein !


No less a war hawk than Kissinger recently wrote a paper urging not war but negotiations between parties to avoid further escalation, potentially to nuclear war.

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Putin wants to end it?

Let’s just entertain that BS statement for a minute… which would inevitably lead us to the question of why he started it in the first place?

Not like they’ve gained anything from it… in fact, all they’ve done is lose from it.

Truth be told though, it is kind of the US’s fault this war is costing them so much.

Russia deployed there army to the Ukrainian border and claimed it was just a military exorcise and that they had no intention of invading… which in hindsight was just like a starving feral dog testing the waters seeing if it was safe to go in and collect the scraps.

The US should of put boots on the ground in Ukraine the second that happened and warned Russia to not cross the border… if they had of done that, then this meaningless BS war never would have started in the first place.

Riiight !!

Instant direct conflict between US and Russia - WW3

Brillant move there, Einstein !

It wouldn’t be WW3. Russia would either back down, or go all out and cease to exist within days, then be forever known as the deceased nation that caused a nuclear fallout.

They’d go down in history as the most evil nation to ever exist.

Makes no sense to take it that far… unless you are literally insinuating that the Russian government is run by full blown psychotics?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: putnam6

Ukraine is being invaded by another country.

That is my comparison.

Nothing to do with comparing the threat.

History teaches us lessons.

Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Take your own advice .
The world has been drawn into many conflicts due to blatant lies in the past.
You can't always believe what your neighbor tells you .

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Putin wants to end it?

Let’s just entertain that BS statement for a minute… which would inevitably lead us to the question of why he started it in the first place?

Not like they’ve gained anything from it… in fact, all they’ve done is lose from it.

Truth be told though, it is kind of the US’s fault this war is costing them so much.

Russia deployed there army to the Ukrainian border and claimed it was just a military exorcise and that they had no intention of invading… which in hindsight was just like a starving feral dog testing the waters seeing if it was safe to go in and collect the scraps.

The US should of put boots on the ground in Ukraine the second that happened and warned Russia to not cross the border… if they had of done that, then this meaningless BS war never would have started in the first place.

Riiight !!

Instant direct conflict between US and Russia - WW3

Brillant move there, Einstein !

It wouldn’t be WW3. Russia would either back down, or go all out and cease to exist within days, then be forever known as the deceased nation that caused a nuclear fallout.

They’d go down in history as the most evil nation to ever exist.

Makes no sense to take it that far… unless you are literally insinuating that the Russian government is run by full blown psychotics?

Russia may or may not be , but Kissinger knows a lot more about geopolitics than you, and when even a warmonger like Kissinger tells you to back off war, you better listen.

For Putin to be able to bring his troops back, he has to have won some territory, simple as that. The 4 regions that are supposedly Russian now, he's basically saying Ukraine just has to accept that and it could be over.

Ukraine knows it can take back territory because it already has in Kherson and in Luhansk. It's not going to get Crimea or Donetsk, and in my opinion those 2 territories for better or worse are honestly more Russian than Ukrainian at this point.

So basically, there will be some more months of bloody siege warfare along the lines of control, and eventually Ukraine is going to have to accept that it will be slightly smaller than it used to be. New borders made, war over, etc.

Zelensky doesn't like that and would rather keep it going indefinitely until Russia decides it has lost too much and pulls out entirely. However, at the start of this, Russia already had Crimea and the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. Those territories aren't going back to Ukraine regardless. In the end, they are going to have to draw new borders for google maps to display and call it a day.

a reply to: DAVID64

Relieved to hear Vlad doesnt want "spin the flywheel of war".

He's only got about two left on his wagon.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Vietnam fell apart because the U.S. could not accept the fact that the Commies won the elections, so they began to back corrupt Saigon officials.

Ukraine fell apart because the same U.S. manipulated it in 2004 and 2014, fostering revolution and regime change so that U.S.-backed corrupt Ukraine officials would come to power. That was part of NATO expansion needed to encircle Russia because it was growing stronger economically.