Netherlands considers compulsory purchase of farms

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: ChristianSupremacist
The excuse the (WEF run) authorities are using to shut these farmers down is "nitrogen" not "animal welfare".

Intensive farming creates excessive nitrogen pollution. Poor welfare standards encourages intensive farming.

Improve animal welfare, and you reduce pollution. Simple.

It does not matter how the Dutch government does it, but cutting nitrogen pollution will result in less intensive farming. From an animal welfare perspective, that is good. The US could learn something from this, as US farming practices are just as bad.

We can't feed 8 billion people on this planet without "intensive farming".

originally posted by: ChristianSupremacist

We can't feed 8 billion people on this planet without "intensive farming".

I disagree... we can't feed billions of people and be profitable without intensive farming.

It is the pressure of economy which we don't control (at all) that created these peaks and valleys of success.

When the metric is money - the actions cease to be about sustainability.

originally posted by: Maxmars

originally posted by: ChristianSupremacist

We can't feed 8 billion people on this planet without "intensive farming".

I disagree... we can't feed billions of people and be profitable without intensive farming.

It is the pressure of economy which we don't control (at all) that created these peaks and valleys of success.

When the metric is money - the actions cease to be about sustainability.

Controlled Economy = Communism
And that's exactly what climate extremism is about.

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: 727Sky
You have to wonder if there is something in the air that makes so many governments stupid ?

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There is.

It's the WEF.....

Government officials are selected not elected

originally posted by: Maxmars

originally posted by: ChristianSupremacist

We can't feed 8 billion people on this planet without "intensive farming".

I disagree... we can't feed billions of people and be profitable without intensive farming.

It is the pressure of economy which we don't control (at all) that created these peaks and valleys of success.

When the metric is money - the actions cease to be about sustainability.

Stop blaming free market capitalism for the government collusion and corporatism. Your l
(Leftist) solution is always to fix the problems created by big government by bringing in more big government. Its exactly this thought process which is the root of the problem.

a reply to: ChristianSupremacist

i would argue it's more neo feudal than communistic they want total control and a stable population of serfs to wait on them..

the clearest ideas of what they want was put forward as the blueprint for survival the original build back better, and clear where there intention lies when they argue to stabilise the population at near 1/2 it was in the 70s. its all very feudal in thinking..

the problem is like the 30s when this was last pushed by progressive liberals someone will take it all the way to its natural conclusion and start to kill millions..

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: karl 12
a reply to: Annee


Hey Annee, regarding 'food' would really be interested in your thoughts on the WEF 'science' you promote and just how well the population of Sri Lanka are doing after initiating those 'policies'.

Am sure vast amounts of farmland are being bought up cheap though.

Is this the GMO controversy?

No it's the Rockefeller WEF ESG controversy Annee, did you check out the links?

Same sh•t they've done is Sri Lanka is the same s•it they're now protesting about in Holland, Germany, New Zealand etc.

Almost as if famine is the aim of the game.

Don't usually agree with everything this chap says but thought he made some pretty profound points in this vid about 'cultism'.

originally posted by: ChristianSupremacist

originally posted by: Maxmars
I disagree... we can't feed billions of people and be profitable without intensive farming....

Stop blaming free market capitalism for the government collusion and corporatism. Your l
(Leftist) solution is always to fix the problems created by big government by bringing in more big government. Its exactly this thought process which is the root of the problem.

I am not 'blaming' any specific system, though. I am not bashing the favored economic system or any economic ideology - and thus not targeting you or anyone else except the singular banking cartel that is behind all such "difficulties."

Because of economic "conditions" we seem to be fixed on "more" of everything. Because most corporations exist primarily for "more," they are led by all those who believe that 'rich' isn't good enough, only 'filthy rich' will do. Because our political parties are virtually filled with prostitutes, their influence is a 'product' taken from the people and given to the corporations. The collusion and corporatism isn't a function of economic theory, it is a fact of anti-social behavior.

Now - in what is ostensibly a desperate struggle to "get what they want before anything changes" the architects of our dysfunction have gathered up all their resources to engender an economic power-grab. So "they" create a scenario offering the only fix characterized as possible, "more power for them" - on the propaganda that "the little people are screwing it up."

(How logical is it to create a threat of destruction to food productions' impact on the "ecology" when there are other more dangerous, impactful, and immediately meaningful threats out there that go unaddressed because it makes their club members money?)

I have been called many things like a "leftist" before, and if that is meant to diminish me, I suggest you adopt another tactic. I have been called right-wing, left-wing, liberal, conservative, libertarian, constitutionalist, radical, anarchist, socialist, capitalist... and a bunch of things I don't want to repeat here. It is unlikely that you will happen upon a vector of attack that will succeed with any great magnitude.

Don't mistake this response for a rejection of what you're saying though. These problem are caused primarily as a function of the intersection of extolled corporate virtues to accumulate wealth, and the stable of political prostitutes - for whom their entire metric is access to that wealth.

I really do relate to the passion of your objection. And I don't feel it is misplaced, just misdirected... that's just my opinion you see.

As for displaying a thought process that 'serves or causes' the problems we face, I can only hope not. Because it is the way I think generally.

Follow up thread: Netherlands to close up to 3,000 farms to comply with EU rules

It's apparently happening