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Senators urge Biden administration to give Ukraine advanced drones

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posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Overseeall
a reply to: JinMI




Oh, not you?

Didnt think so. Just another pissant begging for war.


I dont beg for war. I wish to end the war. You seem to justify the reasons to expanding conflict. Sad, I hope all on this forum now see you what you are.




Projection based on the above clearly.

Anything to the topic snowflake?

Or you gonna keep hopping around threads about how one invasion bad and another invasion good?


On topic - NATO and those against tyrannical oppression should provide Ukraine with the tools and equipment to defend their nations.

Please tell me, if Russia was to invade the US of A, would you feel compelled to defend the nation or roll over to your Russian masters?




One week of engagement of the full force of the US military exceeds 100x lifetimes of the Ukrainians. Harsh, but true.



Ouch.



Just...damn.



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall
a reply to: JinMI

And you have yet to provide a good reason to resist Russian aggression with technology.



Not our fight
Not our borders

Yet billions of unaccounted taxpayer dollars with zero oversight.

Same as it was in February except it wasnt billions then.


lol. Do you know who fights your battles for you?


I do know its not you.




Who then?



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall
a reply to: JinMI

And you have yet to provide a good reason to resist Russian aggression with technology.



Not our fight
Not our borders

Yet billions of unaccounted taxpayer dollars with zero oversight.

Same as it was in February except it wasnt billions then.


lol. Do you know who fights your battles for you?


I do know its not you.




Who then?


Not you, as has been verified.

This a topical question?



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:10 PM
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I don't know how it is that people can't understand that opinions of each other are not the topic on ATS - EVER - but it's close to time to start issuing Posting Bans to those who ignore this.



Everyone and I mean everyone is allowed to post here on topic and to do so without being called names or becoming the target of others' posts. Debate the topic and leave each other out of it.

The topic is Senators urge Biden administration to give Ukraine advanced drones

These rules apply to all threads and if you want to engage in personal attacks there are other sites on the Internet where you can do that. Our goal is for ATS to be above that. For members here to post like mature adults.

YOU are responsible for your own posts

And, as always...
Do not reply to this post.


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posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: JinMI

Ukraine is Not a Member of NATO ,his Line of Thinking is Misguided.


Not an honorary member in the spirit of cooperation?



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall
a reply to: JinMI

And you have yet to provide a good reason to resist Russian aggression with technology.



Not our fight
Not our borders

Yet billions of unaccounted taxpayer dollars with zero oversight.

Same as it was in February except it wasnt billions then.


lol. Do you know who fights your battles for you?


I do know its not you.




Who then?


Not you, as has been verified.

This a topical question?


Answer the question, who then?

Please don’t direct you attack at me,



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: Overseeall
a reply to: MykeNukem




Winter of Death and not because of Russia, either.


WTF are you talking about. Are you serious? The russian invasion has nothing to do with the Winter of Death as you describe it?


Correct.

Our "sanctions" are going to cause it.



With all due respect, the is the stupidest comment ever. You are saying that -- "Russia's invasion of a foreign nation, which has protracted into winter, has nothing to with the deaths that may be experienced during the winter season of eastern European nations. You are a few crayons short of a full box eh?


I think you better quit BS quoting me. Respond to what I said, not what you made up.

I said no such thing.

Just silly. LMAO

Now you throw a tantrum and start insulting people....stereotypical at this point.


Would there be a “ winter of death” as you put it if Russia had not invaded Ukraine and incurred economic sanctions?


More flawed logic.

At which arbitrary point do we start the blaming? Can we go back to the Minsk I and II Agreements? Or maybe the Cold War? This didn't happen in a vacuum, many events are daisy-chained together, leading to the outcome we see.

Ukraine is not NATO, no matter how much you wish it was. I say we mind our business and quit peeing our pants until Russia does something that actually necessitates NATO involvement. Like an actual attack on a NATO nation. Hasn't happened, and won't happen. Russia has no interest in doing that, they know what that would mean.

Russia isn't the USSR and we aren't in the Cold War. Nothing to be scared of.

Let Ukraine handle Ukraine.

We're going to bankrupt the world for this sh#tshow.
edit on 11/23/2022 by MykeNukem because: eta



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall
a reply to: JinMI

And you have yet to provide a good reason to resist Russian aggression with technology.



Not our fight
Not our borders

Yet billions of unaccounted taxpayer dollars with zero oversight.

Same as it was in February except it wasnt billions then.


lol. Do you know who fights your battles for you?


I do know its not you.




Who then?


Not you, as has been verified.

This a topical question?


Answer the question, who then?

Please don’t direct you attack at me,


What question?

Clear english please.



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall
a reply to: JinMI

And you have yet to provide a good reason to resist Russian aggression with technology.



Not our fight
Not our borders

Yet billions of unaccounted taxpayer dollars with zero oversight.

Same as it was in February except it wasnt billions then.


lol. Do you know who fights your battles for you?


I do know its not you.




Who then?


Not you, as has been verified.

This a topical question?


Answer the question, who then?

Please don’t direct you attack at me,


What question?

Clear english please.


Should Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion with all means possible, yes or no?



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: Overseeall

Yep, their own means.



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:31 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Overseeall

Yep, their own means.


Lol, thanks for agreeing with me. If they can secure technology support from allies then they should use it.



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Overseeall

Yep, their own means.


Lol, thanks for agreeing with me. If they can secure technology support from allies then they should use it.


Im not sure how you deduced all from their own but you do you babu.

Also good to see you agree with folks you believe to be russian sympathizers.

Really feeds that integrity.




posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Overseeall

Yep, their own means.


Lol, thanks for agreeing with me. If they can secure technology support from allies then they should use it.


Im not sure how you deduced all from their own but you do you babu.

Also good to see you agree with folks you believe to be russian sympathizers.

Really feeds that integrity.



You are a Russian sympathizer.

If you support Russian surrender and a end to hostilities I will 100% support you. Please do,
edit on 23-11-2022 by Overseeall because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: Overseeall



You are a Russian sympathizer.


No, im objectively and provably not.

But you believe i am and still agree with me.


Bless your heart.



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:45 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Overseeall



You are a Russian sympathizer.


No, im objectively and provably not.

But you believe i am and still agree with me.


Bless your heart.


Only if you think russia should surrender and exit Ukraine. So do you? Please tell us, you have avoided responding.
edit on 23-11-2022 by Overseeall because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 23 2022 @ 10:55 PM
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a reply to: Overseeall

That would be great even if not based in reality.



posted on Nov, 24 2022 @ 12:02 AM
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originally posted by: putnam6

So you are in favor of sending either Gray Eagles or MQ-9A Reapers to Kyiv?

Forget politics for a moment why send it when the Pentagon says Ніяких дронів для вас немає?



Really? They have them already and that is why are we training them. Just cleaning up the paper work... I said this a number of times starting shortly after Russia failed to take Kiev, that their failure opened up a great opportunity for a war of attrition, and Russia didn't even know they lost before it started. They put their toe in the waters and now they are learning the water is over their heads. They are fighting a war from the 1980s and the US has been in real world combat for 20+ years growing our capabilities at an exponential rate as they they grew old and fat. Maybe they can dig out some more T-70s as they think that is where it it at...lol

Its not even the MQ-9s they need to worry about, its the smaller drones that have laser designators that they cannot stop. Ya the MQs have 4 hellfire missiles that can take out one armor vehicle at a time, but the true magic is in identifying from a good distance anything that moves and coordinate direct attacks with a 3 foot accuracy. They could have 100 tanks rolling along and all 100 are gone in a breath. That is where our real stuff is at today. Before this is all done Crimea will be back under Ukrainian rule. We been dumping our leftovers from about 2010 to Ukraine, but boy has our newer stuff come to age in the last 12 years that they haven't seen yet.




edit on 24-11-2022 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2022 @ 01:34 AM
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originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: JinMI

Ukraine is Not a Member a NATO so his Line of Thinking is Misguided.


Ideological alignment.

Nazism?



posted on Nov, 24 2022 @ 01:41 AM
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a reply to: JinMI

I don't know why you're so upset about this. You don't think it's your fight, whatever that means, but most Americans and most of their representatives think sending the weapons is the right course of action. So let their will be done.



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