Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 3

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

A tour of an SSBN is hardly a threat. That sub would never be used unless nuclear weapons were deployed. A veiled threat would be an SSGN being toured, as it has a much more useful, conventional weapons response.

This was clearly a proxy war from the very beginning. Everything has happened with meticulous planning to extend this war. Russia isn't going to back down from what they consider to be a threat to their security.

On the other side, the US has continued to push billions upon billions of dollars of weapon systems into Ukraine and some would say also assisted in providing target data to the Ukrainians. Plus there is probably a good chance that the US is the culprit in sabotaging the Nordstream Pipeline (an unused pipeline that could have, if a peace treaty happened, be used to provide energy to the EU) and now stands to make money on transporting its LNG to the EU via the slowboat.

Of course, that's just my .02.

The looting operation has again started, not really surprice is it...they done this same in other places also.


Reports from Energodar that Russian occupation troops have started to loot residential buildings. It is always the same, washing machines, TVs or other valuables.

We have reports of looting all over Kherson Oblast, and not only West of the Dnipro river. It is just lawlessness.

a reply to: paraphi
Just look at the way they treat their own troops-literal cannon fodder sent unequipped without command to the front,shot if they retreat just like in WW2.
There are more than a few vids of remote villages the russians occupied-rape and torture of the locals is normal behaviour.

They often don't even try to repatriate their own dead,often they are just dumped in a pile and eaten by animals(there are videos)-how f#ing disrepectful is that to those who made the ultimate sacrifice?
Could you imagine the backlash in the US or UK if we did that kind of thing?
I would riot to the death if my government behaved in that way.

The way the russians bahave they are fully deserving of the name "Orcs."

originally posted by: H0P114
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

A tour of an SSBN is hardly a threat. That sub would never be used unless nuclear weapons were deployed. A veiled threat would be an SSGN being toured, as it has a much more useful, conventional weapons response.

This was clearly a proxy war from the very beginning. Everything has happened with meticulous planning to extend this war. Russia isn't going to back down from what they consider to be a threat to their security.

On the other side, the US has continued to push billions upon billions of dollars of weapon systems into Ukraine and some would say also assisted in providing target data to the Ukrainians. Plus there is probably a good chance that the US is the culprit in sabotaging the Nordstream Pipeline (an unused pipeline that could have, if a peace treaty happened, be used to provide energy to the EU) and now stands to make money on transporting its LNG to the EU via the slowboat.

Of course, that's just my .02.

Now you come to say it yes that makes total sense on the sub. Nukes probably aren't on the cards regarding Iran, at least for now.

Feel the same on the proxy war and Russia's response to it. Too far gone now to back down against this threat to the all important western border. For many Russian's alive today Ukraine was the same country, post 1991 still close and at least not a threat. Ukraine got hijacked by McCain and Nuland and a puppet installed along with his cronies. Russia has no choice but to see this through by whatever means possible if it is to retain its sphere of influence

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: Xcathdra


Interesting, i guess Vlad didn't feel like being part of such noble idea like protecting civilians etc . Russian private military armys has also bad reputation in some African places, like Wagnerities what is run by Putins cook .

The deportation of civilians from Kherson to other Russian areas now is also not acceptable either, and how they have kidnap huge amount of Ukrainian children, transporting them to far Russia .

The ironic part is that Putin still claims the Nazi bs in Ukraine, even though Putin is taking the plays direct from Nazi Germany.

Wiki - Kidnapping of children by Nazi Germany

During World War II, around 200,000[4][5][6][7] ethnic Polish children as well as an unspecified number of children of other ethnicities were abducted from their homes and forcibly transported to Nazi Germany for purposes of forced labour, medical experimentation, or Germanization.

An aim of the project was to acquire and "Germanize" children with purportedly Aryan-Nordic traits, who were considered by Nazi officials to be descendants of German settlers who had emigrated to Poland. Those labelled "racially valuable" were forcibly Germanized in centres and then sent to German families and SS Home Schools.[8]

Just replace Germanization with Russianization.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

there is a word 'vatniki' in russian which explains the russian mentality to all the terror they create it means warm coat and is what the average russian who doesnt care about anything is said to be wrapped in when they ignore what their leader does. except now he took the coat off them by drafting them to war, making them flee and making western goods scare....

a reply to: Xcathdra

IMO, when putin released the Azov fighters in the POW swap, he lost any tiny bit of legitimacy he may have had about denazification. That should have been a huge red flag to anyone swallowing putin's propaganda. It's quite amazing that worn out excuse is still in play.

a reply to: Xcathdra


That`s another copy from nazi playbook then.


The recent shooting in Russia that killed about 30 Russian in training camp seems to lead to details that the shooter was not even Russian citizen, but was kidnapped to be mobilized .

BREAKING: New reports indicate that some of the Tajiks who killed up to 30 Russian soldiers in Belgorod were economic migrants without Russian citizenship who were kidnapped and forcibly mobilized by the Russian Army. This is Ehson Aminzoda, kidnapped on October 10th.


No wonder so many want to leave Russia , their tactics/methods are insane .

a reply to: Kenzo

A couple of weeks ago, the US State Department issued a warning to all Americans that they should leave russia. Many saw this as a sign that NATO was preparing for war. However, in reality, the warning was issued for exactly this reason; to avoid forced conscription.

a reply to: WeDemBoyz

russians will attempt to dragoon the ukrainians they are forcing from kherson, hopefully they kill their leaders and act as saboteurs behind the lines. if so many people werent being killed it would be funny to watch this idiots strategy, its like a lesson on what not to do to win a war...

a reply to: WeDemBoyz


Yeeh it seems so now, and knowing the details of their mobilization it`s like death sentence to end up to frontline in Ukraine . Best move is to surrender to Ukrainians, but it seems that has got now more difficult recently , and there is risk to get shot by Russians when they see someone going to surrender.

originally posted by: WeDemBoyz
a reply to: Kenzo

A couple of weeks ago, the US State Department issued a warning to all Americans that they should leave russia. Many saw this as a sign that NATO was preparing for war. However, in reality, the warning was issued for exactly this reason; to avoid forced conscription.

I guess Edward Snowden is screwed then...

www.nbcnews.com...

It looks like Putin is stepping thins up a bit. It makes me wonder if Putin has been trying to provoke WW3 all along.

An “unarmed RAF RC-135 Rivet Joint” plane was “interacted with by two Russian armed SU-27 fighter aircraft,” one of which “released a missile in the vicinity of the RAF Rivet Joint beyond visual range.”

a reply to: Scrable

I saw that and didn't quite understand what was going on there?

originally posted by: H0P114
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

A tour of an SSBN is hardly a threat. That sub would never be used unless nuclear weapons were deployed. A veiled threat would be an SSGN being toured, as it has a much more useful, conventional weapons response.

This was clearly a proxy war from the very beginning. Everything has happened with meticulous planning to extend this war. Russia isn't going to back down from what they consider to be a threat to their security.

On the other side, the US has continued to push billions upon billions of dollars of weapon systems into Ukraine and some would say also assisted in providing target data to the Ukrainians. Plus there is probably a good chance that the US is the culprit in sabotaging the Nordstream Pipeline (an unused pipeline that could have, if a peace treaty happened, be used to provide energy to the EU) and now stands to make money on transporting its LNG to the EU via the slowboat.

Of course, that's just my .02.

Yeah the swiss looked at the pipe. the explosion came FROM WITHIN THE PIPE. Its easy to put in a bomb in a scrubber to send in the pipe to detonate at a pre determined location and time.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: H0P114
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

A tour of an SSBN is hardly a threat. That sub would never be used unless nuclear weapons were deployed. A veiled threat would be an SSGN being toured, as it has a much more useful, conventional weapons response.

This was clearly a proxy war from the very beginning. Everything has happened with meticulous planning to extend this war. Russia isn't going to back down from what they consider to be a threat to their security.

On the other side, the US has continued to push billions upon billions of dollars of weapon systems into Ukraine and some would say also assisted in providing target data to the Ukrainians. Plus there is probably a good chance that the US is the culprit in sabotaging the Nordstream Pipeline (an unused pipeline that could have, if a peace treaty happened, be used to provide energy to the EU) and now stands to make money on transporting its LNG to the EU via the slowboat.

Of course, that's just my .02.

Yeah the swiss looked at the pipe. the explosion came FROM WITHIN THE PIPE. Its easy to put in a bomb in a scrubber to send in the pipe to detonate at a pre determined location and time.

Sweden investigated the explosion not the Swiss and haven't released their findings. It might be easy to put a bomb in a scrubber but it's even easier to put a lie in capitals.

originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: H0P114
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

A tour of an SSBN is hardly a threat. That sub would never be used unless nuclear weapons were deployed. A veiled threat would be an SSGN being toured, as it has a much more useful, conventional weapons response.

This was clearly a proxy war from the very beginning. Everything has happened with meticulous planning to extend this war. Russia isn't going to back down from what they consider to be a threat to their security.

On the other side, the US has continued to push billions upon billions of dollars of weapon systems into Ukraine and some would say also assisted in providing target data to the Ukrainians. Plus there is probably a good chance that the US is the culprit in sabotaging the Nordstream Pipeline (an unused pipeline that could have, if a peace treaty happened, be used to provide energy to the EU) and now stands to make money on transporting its LNG to the EU via the slowboat.

Of course, that's just my .02.

Yeah the swiss looked at the pipe. the explosion came FROM WITHIN THE PIPE. Its easy to put in a bomb in a scrubber to send in the pipe to detonate at a pre determined location and time.

Sweden investigated the explosion not the Swiss and haven't released their findings. It might be easy to put a bomb in a scrubber but it's even easier to put a lie in capitals.

Its not a lie. The pictures they showed the pipe was blown outward,not inward. And MY BAD i was confused. I though the SWISS were also SWEDISH! SO the SWEDISH said the pipe was blown outwards. There happy now? or course you arent.

5:56pm: Ukraine warns of growing threat from Belarus www.france24.com...

"Ukraine on Thursday warned of a “growing” threat of a new Russian offensive from Belarus, after Minsk and Moscow last week announced a joint force to defend Belarusian borders.

Ukraine said that Russian aviation units were now deploying in bases in Belarus on the border with Ukraine.

Russia used Belarus as a staging point for its assault on northern Ukraine towards the capital Kyiv which was repelled in March. Oleksiy Gromov, deputy chief of the Ukrainian General Staff, said that any new offensive could aim more towards western Ukraine “to cut the main logistical arteries for the supply of weapons and military equipment to Ukraine”.

Belarus has insisted that its aims with its new joint force with Russia, which will involve up to 9,000 Russian soldiers and around 170 tanks being sent to Belarus, are only defensive."

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: H0P114
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

A tour of an SSBN is hardly a threat. That sub would never be used unless nuclear weapons were deployed. A veiled threat would be an SSGN being toured, as it has a much more useful, conventional weapons response.

This was clearly a proxy war from the very beginning. Everything has happened with meticulous planning to extend this war. Russia isn't going to back down from what they consider to be a threat to their security.

On the other side, the US has continued to push billions upon billions of dollars of weapon systems into Ukraine and some would say also assisted in providing target data to the Ukrainians. Plus there is probably a good chance that the US is the culprit in sabotaging the Nordstream Pipeline (an unused pipeline that could have, if a peace treaty happened, be used to provide energy to the EU) and now stands to make money on transporting its LNG to the EU via the slowboat.

Of course, that's just my .02.

Yeah the swiss looked at the pipe. the explosion came FROM WITHIN THE PIPE. Its easy to put in a bomb in a scrubber to send in the pipe to detonate at a pre determined location and time.

Sweden investigated the explosion not the Swiss and haven't released their findings. It might be easy to put a bomb in a scrubber but it's even easier to put a lie in capitals.

Its not a lie. The pictures they showed the pipe was blown outward,not inward. And MY BAD i was confused. I though the SWISS were also SWEDISH! SO the SWEDISH said the pipe was blown outwards. There happy now? or course you arent.

"They" are a newspaper. One of the larger in Sweden got permission to dive with a drone and take pictures, then people speculate that it's been blown outward.

It has nothing to do with the official Swedish investigation. So the SWEDISH which arent the SWISS said nothing yet.

Russia's military aircraft exports are taking a nosedive.

As of course are some of their military aircraft.

Several reasons, apparently, not least of which is that they are a bit rubbish:

www.defensenews.com...