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posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 03:46 AM
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a reply to: vNex92



In proxy war agaisnt Russia.
I agree that there shouldn't be a war in Europe but supporting Ukraine further is a escalation.



originally posted by: MisguidedAngel
I agree with a lot of your post but I definitely DONT agree that we should help Ukraine by proxy. Ukraine nationlists, the new Ukrainian government that came in, in 2014 and Zelenskyy for not keeping his campaign promises that there would be no more Ukrainian army attacks on its own people in the Donbass and of course the US, particularly John McCain and Victoria Newman and now Joe Biden are the original "bullies" in this current conflict.



But it was ok for Putin to fight proxy wars with Russian soldiers and people fighting for Putin as for those people you liable “on its own people”?

Putin is now killing in mass civilians with Russian terror missile attacks with no real impact on the Ukrainian fighting forces?



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 04:03 AM
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a reply to: dollukka
Kiev was Russias first major city looking at antique maps of the classical world. Then Poland took it under their empire. In the meantime russians settle new cities and eventually regain Kiev, Poland is broken up. Poland comes back later as one, but does not include Kiev. The area around to the North moves around with Lithuania and Poland, but Kiev stays Russian.
a reply to: sarahvital
My french maps of the classic world show the name ukraine showing up for the first time after treaties in 1926.
No older maps printed from just after WW1 have the name Ukraine in it until 1926.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 04:06 AM
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a reply to: WhatItIs
Man, yall need to replace the record, its stuck on repeat.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 04:12 AM
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You make this thread about Europe being destroyed again from world War? I think you should worry more about USA because in the next one, USA will be burning, from coast to coast.

USA is no longer the Supreme power (racists) control over the world it once had. Governments and its racists politicians no longer fear USA.

USA has fallen.



a reply to: Tarantula777



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 04:16 AM
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a reply to: WhatItIs

Why are you repeating it like a record?

I already replied to you a thousands times and you kept ignoring it ya honestly believe your going to try and convince to my stance?



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 04:18 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer




USA is no longer the Supreme power (racists) control over the world it once had. Governments and its racists politicians no longer fear USA.

If Russia losses in Ukraine the USA still controls this Supreme power. "Securing America's Future" as one General in my new thread points out.

The $6 Trillion of tax payers money? its going to the MIC that want to see Russia defeated if not broken up & decolonized.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 04:40 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

The hate towards Russia/Russians begin during the mid 80s/90s.



No older maps printed from just after WW1 have the name Ukraine in it until 1926.


Exactly. The majority of the population until WW1 were still ethnic Russian.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:19 AM
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originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: WhatItIs

Why are you repeating it like a record?

I already replied to you a thousands times and you kept ignoring it ya honestly believe your going to try and convince to my stance?



Can you honestly say that Putin’s terror missiles attacks are not killing “Russian Speaking Peoples”. Killing people of Russian heritage you think Putin is protecting.

Be careful how you reply. You might confirm just how delusional you are?



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:24 AM
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a reply to: vNex92

And remember. I’m not the one painting the Russians as some sort of heroes. You know. They guys that lied about the shooting down of MH-17 and the Olenivka prison massacre….



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:26 AM
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a reply to: WhatItIs

Were you when Kiev was sending "Western Supplied terror missiles" onto Donbass?
and other regions in Eastern Ukraine?

Kept targeting civilians and destroying civilian homes? i suppose they were fair target?



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:31 AM
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a reply to: WhatItIs




They guys that lied about the shooting down of MH-17

Ah yes still obsessive over the alleged Russian shooting down of MH-17 like a broken record as MSM is.

I will again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and for the final time remind you on that flight of MH-17.


1.Why did Kiev's government and Kiev's airport radar at that time before the alleged shooting why haven't they alerted the commercial airliner.

They were flying into a hot zone? war zone?

When it comes to the tragedy of MH-17.


That goes with the Kiev government which currently at that time it was poroshenko government that was running the country.
After he was put in after the US supported color revolution/regime change in Kiev a year before.



Maybe you should ask the Kiev's airport why they allowed a commercial plane to fly through in a war zone.


edit on 11-10-2022 by vNex92 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:32 AM
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originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: WhatItIs

Were you when Kiev was sending "Western Supplied terror missiles" onto Donbass?
and other regions in Eastern Ukraine?

Kept targeting civilians and destroying civilian homes? i suppose they were fair target?



Answer the question vnex.

Can you honestly say that Putin’s terror missiles attacks are not killing “Russian Speaking Peoples”. Killing people of Russian heritage you think Putin is protecting.


You the one that painted how close the civilians of the Ukrainian are to Russia. Painted yourself into a corner, didn’t ya.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:33 AM
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a reply to: WhatItIs




You might confirm just how delusional you are?

For An American that is most delusional about MH-17.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:33 AM
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a reply to: WhatItIs

That was a quick repurpose did you even read it or just copied down your statement?



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:35 AM
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I believe this is the story too.


originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: dollukka
Kiev was Russias first major city looking at antique maps of the classical world. Then Poland took it under their empire. In the meantime russians settle new cities and eventually regain Kiev, Poland is broken up. Poland comes back later as one, but does not include Kiev. The area around to the North moves around with Lithuania and Poland, but Kiev stays Russian.
a reply to: sarahvital
My french maps of the classic world show the name ukraine showing up for the first time after treaties in 1926.
No older maps printed from just after WW1 have the name Ukraine in it until 1926.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:36 AM
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a reply to: vNex92

That doesn’t answer why Russia lied. Does it. Your moving goalposts.

Face it. Putin is just another lying authoritarian. And you carry his water for him.

You don’t have one item of criticism against him. Or you in a position where you can’t criticize Putin without some form of punishment….
edit on 11-10-2022 by WhatItIs because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:41 AM
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originally posted by: vNex92
"Securing America's Future" as one General in my new thread points out.

The $6 Trillion of tax payers money? its going to the MIC that want to see Russia defeated if not broken up & decolonized.


And take control of Siberia's massive oil resources and protect WRC status.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 05:46 AM
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originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: WhatItIs

That was a quick repurpose did you even read it or just copied down your statement?



You didn’t answer the question. Yes or no.

Putin’s terror missiles attacks are also killing “Russian Speaking Peoples”. Killing people of Russian heritage you think Putin is protecting.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 06:09 AM
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originally posted by: teapot

originally posted by: vNex92
"Securing America's Future" as one General in my new thread points out.

The $6 Trillion of tax payers money? its going to the MIC that want to see Russia defeated if not broken up & decolonized.


And take control of Siberia's massive oil resources and protect WRC status.

Thankful someone with common sense here.



posted on Oct, 11 2022 @ 06:21 AM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: Tarantula777

Let me help you abate your fears, there will not be any nuclear exchange.

I wouldn't be so sure. If Putin is fool enough to drop a nuke on Ukrainian soil, his troop concentrations (on Ukrainian soil) might become a retaliatory target.

Doubtful anyone from the Nuclear Club is foolish enough to drop one directly over Russian soil though.



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