Shaggy and Velma From Scooby Cartoon Show Had Being Race Swapped

There is nothing new under the sun, it's all been done before, they just mix things up and rehash old material. This is the one of the biggest problems of the post modern era. The human race is on the downside of the apex of our creative potential, so things like this are all they have left.

a reply to: Tortuga

You’d think they would have learned that it tends not to make much cash when they do this.

true when a popular show, comic, or what ever, characters are changed from their original sex, sexual orientation, color, race it rarely last more than a few seasons. where as the original may have run 10,15, 20 seasons.

you'd think Warner Bros would have learned this by now, seeing how they were part of the founding and still minor partners in the CW network who is really bad about changing characters and the show are lucky to get 4 maybe 5 seasons.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
There is nothing new under the sun, it's all been done before, they just mix things up and rehash old material. This is the one of the biggest problems of the post modern era. The human race is on the downside of the apex of our creative potential, so things like this are all they have left.

its a safer investment to redo old stuff you know is already successful than it is to create new stuff from scratch, i wouldn't say our creative potential is on the downside, corporations just have too much influence in America.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

5 seasons for a show that has 20+ episodes a season is really good. That means they've passed the 100 episode benchmark for syndication, which is where the real money is made.

I read that Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David earn $400 million for every syndication cycle of Seinfeld.

this is the 2nd new Scooby Doo related show that's been in the news this week. This HBO Max Velma show is listed as being an "adult animated" show. Yet it's the other one that was in the news for Velma being a lesbian. So the children's show is exploring sexuality while the adult show is going to have cursing and drug use? not sure where the line is anymore.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

for a original show yeah, not when it's a remake and redo of a original that ran 10,15,20 seasons, was losing ratings the whole time and the last seasons where a attempt to keep them alive.


just a example in my option, star trek only ran three season and is one of the most syndicated if not the most in the world.
all the other star trek series didn't try to remake the charters, they did new charters with their own stroies, and all of them, Star Trek NG, Deep Space 9, Voyager, and Enterprise are all still running to this day 6 days a week in order.

the movies with pine and quinto although fairly watchable, didn't hold a candle to the original series charters wise imo. a delinquent, very hot head, captain kirk, who is similar to the original but dialed up a many more notches, the rest were nothing like the originals ,well except maybe sulu.a emotional, horndog, in love spock, a extra brainy 17 chekov, in the first movie scotty was more or less a watched up engineer stationed on a cold barren planet, uhura a arrogant biddy bytch.

if you want to do a remake, don't change the personalities or the premises of the story line, that's why the orignals lasted as long as they did and are still running. does anybody think these new woke shows will still be aired 10, 15, 20,30,50 years later.
if you want to use the name fine, create new charters, not old ones that have been changed into pis poor woke facsimiles of the originals

originally posted by: namehere

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
There is nothing new under the sun, it's all been done before, they just mix things up and rehash old material. This is the one of the biggest problems of the post modern era. The human race is on the downside of the apex of our creative potential, so things like this are all they have left.

its a safer investment to redo old stuff you know is already successful than it is to create new stuff from scratch, i wouldn't say our creative potential is on the downside, corporations just have too much influence in America.

Sure, but what happened to exploiting underground subcultures or avant-garde movements for new material? Anyway, there is far better material than Scooby Doo to refer back to for remaking, esp. when all they have is race mixing and some social-political commentary to add.

originally posted by: PureBlood
It kinda makes sense that Shaggy is Black, and Velma sounds Indianish.

show will be produced by Mindy Kaling, who is Indian. She was on The Office and did 'The Mindy Project'.

originally posted by: vNex92
Not sure where to put this story.
But they are indeed coming after your favorite, classic cartoon characters and replacing them by race swapping old characters from the mid 90/2000s shows.
They are changing characters, stories to whichever it fits the "Modern Audiences"

This whole swapping old characters from old shows "mix them, Interracial characters"
to push a agenda or narrative is not helpful.

If you dont like the show you would criticized as racist it's obvious what they are trying to pull with this and that is if it fails they would label and criticize the critics.
HBO Max’s adult-animated ‘VELMA’ series.

Outrage porn for easily disgruntled audiences who stopped watching Scooby Doo after the golden age of hanna barbera cartoons regardless.

a reply to: nonspecific

I would agree. I mean, if you think about it, what ethnicities and age groups even watch TV anymore? Certainly not the members of the "productive" class that I am familiar with. They don't have time.

Seems they already have a comment of their own for this discussion in the teaser trailer.

I'll admit it, I chuckled.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

to bad they didn't take their own advice, the classics work and always will.

I think you'll find that they've also made Velma a lesbian.

I think that everyone's convinced that the worlds gone mad and now everything that was needs to be remade but with an element of social racial and sexual equality and that its an affront to them personally and the world they had.

The truth is just as I said before, if they remake these things but add some ethnic diversity and a more modern approach then it makes them more money and so that's what they do.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: nonspecific

I would agree. I mean, if you think about it, what ethnicities and age groups even watch TV anymore? Certainly not the members of the "productive" class that I am familiar with. They don't have time.

a reply to: vNex92

My Millennial generation & the younger twatwaffles share something special together cross Gens --


Anyone born past 1985 has ZERO clue how to do anything other than Participation Trophy Coat-tail Ride their way through their years, because they were never taught how to do anything directly themselves (let alone come up with an original thought or concept)

And they still expect praise for the content-cheap, emotion-pandering redo's that barely rate B-list in quality anyway.

Remakes are a Flashing Neon Sign for that. It's basically the Millennial & Zoomers' unconscious Buyer Beware.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

This is true, but I relish something new when I have the classics so ingrained in my memory that they stop being fun.

What about Wacky Races, The Blue Falcon and Dynomutt, Space Ghost, The Herculoids, Grape Ape?

Why is it always freakin' Scooby Goddamn Doo?

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: vNex92

Scooby doo is owned by Warner Bros.

As such its an asset and can be used to generate income. As they own the asset it's their right to alter it and if they choose to alter it so it's a more profitable and valuable product then thats what they will do.

I think this and other examples are far more about cash than anything nefarious or "woke"

FALSE

Every instance of "woke" show has proven to be a financial disaster, and this is well known in Hollywood. This woke BS was pushed by deviant employees within film studios such as Warner and Disney, with no regard for profitability, all about message.

So bad that Disney activist shareholders recently had to state the obvious that moving forward, it would be about profitability

nypost.com...

a reply to: ketsuko

Thats a stretch to say writers are willing to put tons of creative energy and time into something they think people will hate.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES

Seems they already have a comment of their own for this discussion in the teaser trailer.

I'll admit it, I chuckled.

O that's hilarious. They are making fun of people like OP.

a reply to: vNex92

VELMA was just a Female Hetero NERD . Wishing She was a Lesbo in Retrospect doesn't Make it So No. 1 .