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Germany is done. Kaput.

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posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

for Germany how do they do that and remain the economic backstop of Europe and its lender of last resort for the EU while keeping the ECB and big money on board.. a very complex crisis is around the corner..



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

Greece, Italy, Spain…magic 8 ball says they want Germany to burn since they would not lift a finger to help them during the Great Recession of 2008.



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: KindraLabelle2

lol
Or it means people 'higher up the ladder' have pebbles for brains.
What's the state supposed to fix in this regard? Conquer Russia and China and everybody who might have an upsetting influence on the economy? Impose a planned economy on the world?

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posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar & to: nickyw

Yes well it might take several gigantic miracles for the current EU to survive this.



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: KindraLabelle2

lol
Or it means people 'higher up the ladder' have pebbles for brains.
What's the state supposed to fix in this regard? Conquer Russia and China and everybody who might have an upsetting influence on the economy? Impose a planned economy on the world?


lol don't ask me, I'm just a worker bee...

means that they are finally forced out of their comfortable lives and are sh*ting their pants about what is coming.
it gives me a weird sense of joy to see them like this



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

it [EU] needs a lot of goodwill its currently lacking with the various cases its bringing against allied govs and member states, its like the seriousness of the situation has not only not sunk in and they are still role playing being in charge..



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Yep well noones going to be able to fix this snip show.

Firstly predictive graphs are showing that we are doing the exact same pattern that occurred before the 2008 crisis. But they arentgoing to be able to print more money with inflation like this. Except thats all they know how to do…

twitter 2008 vs 2022

Also clot shot awareness is coming out constantly. They’re gone back pedalling now.

I reckon sometime in November it’ll blow.
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posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: DaRAGE

What a moron !!!

And the guy supposedly has a doctorate...written in crayon....


Eco-tards...really are retarded....



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 03:38 PM
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Ikr? The German government isn’t just leading their country towards the edge of the cliff (like the US government is) Germany seems to be gleefully pushing their country right over the cliff, like ASAP! a reply to: AndyFromMichigan



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: DaRAGE

www.reuters.com...

Not only Germany, but the entire EU is nuttier than a fruitcake. They actually thought they could impose a pricecap on the Russian gas they would buy. How stupid can they be?


EU to propose price cap on Russian gas, von der Leyen says
BRUSSELS, Sept 7 (Reuters) - The European Commission will propose a price cap on Russian gas, alongside measures including a mandatory EU cut in electricity use and a ceiling on the revenue of non-gas power generators, the bloc's chief said on Wednesday.

Power and fuel prices have soared as Russia has cut the amount of gas it sends to Europe, with European leaders accusing Moscow of weaponising its energy supplies. Russia has blamed the supply cuts on technical issues and Western sanctions imposed over its invasion of Ukraine.

"We will propose a price cap on Russian gas ... We must cut Russia's revenues which Putin uses to finance this atrocious war in Ukraine," European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told reporters.

President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that Russia will stop supplying gas and oil if price caps are imposed. read more


Forrest Gump is smarter than this.



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: DaRAGE



Germany is done. Kaput.


Completely agreed, however, what you quote is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm not sure if your familiar with CJ Hopkins, he is an American writer/satirist and been living in Germany for the past 18 years. Have a read of the link below;

Germeany has fallen off a cliff.



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: Antisocialist
a reply to: DaRAGE

www.reuters.com...

Not only Germany, but the entire EU is nuttier than a fruitcake. They actually thought they could impose a pricecap on the Russian gas they would buy. How stupid can they be?


EU to propose price cap on Russian gas, von der Leyen says
BRUSSELS, Sept 7 (Reuters) - The European Commission will propose a price cap on Russian gas, alongside measures including a mandatory EU cut in electricity use and a ceiling on the revenue of non-gas power generators, the bloc's chief said on Wednesday.

Power and fuel prices have soared as Russia has cut the amount of gas it sends to Europe, with European leaders accusing Moscow of weaponising its energy supplies. Russia has blamed the supply cuts on technical issues and Western sanctions imposed over its invasion of Ukraine.

"We will propose a price cap on Russian gas ... We must cut Russia's revenues which Putin uses to finance this atrocious war in Ukraine," European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told reporters.

President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that Russia will stop supplying gas and oil if price caps are imposed. read more


Forrest Gump is smarter than this.



They Can, or Russia can just keep burning it for a decade or so, they're good for at-least another 9 months, and can increase supply from other exporters to get topped up for next year while increasing LNG storage

Russia depends on its energy sales to float the country, Europe is Russia's premium market, neither India or China can ever replace it without major tens of billions in investment and long term to medium term infrastructure projects

The Power Of Siberia 1 & 2 lines are peanuts in comparisons are peak output for the sizer of the gas fields compared to the much bigger and more centralized fields supplying EU markets

not a quick fix

Probably why the US give its blessings on Nord Stream 2

Because both the EU & Russia have strategically destroyed themselves, while the USA just Arms Ukraine and China's belt and road imitative crumbles are proxy wars break out all across the STANS

Strategic brilliance IMO



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Lysergic

Not if for that time salaries and rent get frozen.
I mean it would create a 'lack of income cascade' but if the state can bail out listed companies...


thats not very bussin



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: Antisocialist
a reply to: DaRAGE

www.reuters.com...

Not only Germany, but the entire EU is nuttier than a fruitcake. They actually thought they could impose a pricecap on the Russian gas they would buy. How stupid can they be?


EU to propose price cap on Russian gas, von der Leyen says
BRUSSELS, Sept 7 (Reuters) - The European Commission will propose a price cap on Russian gas, alongside measures including a mandatory EU cut in electricity use and a ceiling on the revenue of non-gas power generators, the bloc's chief said on Wednesday.

Power and fuel prices have soared as Russia has cut the amount of gas it sends to Europe, with European leaders accusing Moscow of weaponising its energy supplies. Russia has blamed the supply cuts on technical issues and Western sanctions imposed over its invasion of Ukraine.

"We will propose a price cap on Russian gas ... We must cut Russia's revenues which Putin uses to finance this atrocious war in Ukraine," European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told reporters.

President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that Russia will stop supplying gas and oil if price caps are imposed. read more


Forrest Gump is smarter than this.


Ahahhahaah that gave me a good chuckle. The EU are crazy for thinking Russia would agree to that hahah
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posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 05:00 PM
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I am sure we are misreading them then if this is what we are getting. I think it is about the world reset taking all the economies out. It is obvious any nation that goes stupid with their resources like we have, or buys from someone they believe to be the "enemy" are praying it causes chaos. Out of chaos, order. They need people to believe that they are stupid instead of an evil genius. So far EG is winning.




originally posted by: TritonTaranis
Germany's foreign policy & national security advisers been MIA for a while haven't they?

Why they were sourcing Russian energy while not reading the clear warning signs was pretty amateur IMO, Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and they still went ahead with Nord Stream 2 ??? madness, its the usual liberal mistake made far to often, the notion that the world is inherently good on face value is just insanity

Not laughing now are they ?



I think perhaps its got a lot to do with the fact Germany has a large Pro Russian right & Pro Soviet tankies, and they've managed to worm in and convince or out balance Germany's common sense NatSec and foreign policy advisers to the point of self destruction

Something something a divided nation cannot stand?






posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

Soon the people will realize that they are the economy. All a government does is cozy up to big business for their mutual benefit. You just might have to get up off the couch and adapt.



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 05:22 PM
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I think the economic takeaway from all this should be, don’t buy your rosary from an atheist. But people never seem to learn about prioritizing security over price.



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Peeple

Soon the people will realize that they are the economy. All a government does is cozy up to big business for their mutual benefit. You just might have to get up off the couch and adapt.



Both the US/EU is the global economy

It drives the exports based economies growth and and manufacturing based economies growth

That is globalization, its so importantly intrinsically interlocked and reliant on each other, that when you pull one JENGA! block and maybe another... and just as the worlds global population is about to collapse

What have you got? a monstrous pile of rubble

If you shut down one or the other you get global collapse, and a great depression on steroid's

And that is where the world is going on fast track IMO

I think its obvious including Russia and China with historical chips on their shoulders was a massive mistake and the next 5 years will be supply chains coming back including a de-globalization

Unlike Russia & China though, The west actually has an advanced monster military to ensure it goes smoothly or completely deny adversaries on the oceans

I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years the global population is half that of today maybe less from what all this actually means for the world



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: TritonTaranis

Yeah. I was just thinking yesterday that, well, they’re controlling the food output and trying to make it scarcer. The worlds economies are about to come crashing down. And they can’t print more money, but that’s all they know what to do. Only thing that’d be wrong going down now is a ww3 or an global emp takes out the grid. It’ll get real hectic real quick.



posted on Sep, 14 2022 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: DaRAGE
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Yeah. I was just thinking yesterday that, well, they’re controlling the food output and trying to make it scarcer. The worlds economies are about to come crashing down. And they can’t print more money, but that’s all they know what to do. Only thing that’d be wrong going down now is a ww3 or an global emp takes out the grid. It’ll get real hectic real quick.


I think its uavoidable

Perhaps sober heads will prevail

Perhaps they wont

This will be far worst than WWI & WWII because its a civilization war







 
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