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Solar System Travelling to An Area Much Hotter and Denser Which Could Explain Climate Change.

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posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 07:07 PM
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(Some of the comments below I have posted in the past in other threads linked throughout this OP.)

For almost a couple of decades I have been posting more and more evidence in these forums that seems to be the answer for the ongoing Climate Change, in the form of warming, that is occurring not just to Earth, not just to Mars, not just moons with an atmosphere like Titan, not Just to Pluto and Charon, but our own moon is emitting more heat, twice the amount actually, that current models simply can't explain.

If this is happening to so many planets and even moons, including our very own moon, then there is no way to deny that the same thing is what has been happening to Earth. More so when past research pointed to this very fact. That our Solar System had been, and is moving to a different region of the Local Fluff/Local interstellar Cloud that is much more hot, and much more denser than the region we have been traveling through for about 45k years or so.

Once again I will start presenting the first research from 1978 which postulated that sometime in the near future the Earth's climate would have drastic changes if our Solar System moved into this new region/Interstellar Cloud.


Title:
Is the solar system entering a nearby interstellar cloud
Authors:
Vidal-Madjar, A.; Laurent, C.; Bruston, P.; Audouze, J.
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Abstract
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Observational arguments in favor of such a cloud are presented, and implications of the presence of a nearby cloud are discussed, including possible changes in terrestrial climate. It is suggested that the postulated interstellar cloud should encounter the solar system at some unspecified time in the near future and might have a drastic influence on terrestrial climate in the next 10,000 years.

adsabs.harvard.edu...

"Back in 1978 scientists found that the Solar System would encounter in the 'near future" a different interstellar cloud from the one in which the Solar System had been going through for tens of thousands of years, and that this new interstellar cloud would affect the dynamics of the Solar System, and even possibly change the climate of Earth. Since then we have found out more about the changes that can occur when the Solar System enters new regions of the Local Interstellar Cloud (LIC)"

I also posted some evidence in the following thread, although it was not the main reason why I wrote that specific thread.

Scientific Research on Solar System Brown Dwarf and Planet X.

Back in 1989 astronomers began to notice that something strange was happening to Pluto. As Pluto was orbiting away from our sun, it's internal heat/war ming kept increasing the more it orbited away from our sun.


By Robert Roy Britt published October 09, 2002
In what is largely a reversal of an August announcement, astronomers today said Pluto is undergoing global warming in its thin atmosphere even as it moves farther from the Sun on its long, odd-shaped orbit.

Pluto's atmospheric pressure has tripled over the past 14 years, indicating a stark temperature rise, the researchers said. The change is likely a seasonal event, much as seasons on Earth change as the hemispheres alter their inclination to the Sun during the planet's annual orbit.

They suspect the average surface temperature increased about 3.5 degrees Fahrenheit, or slightly less than 2 degrees Celsius.


Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists(2002)
Pluto is undergoing global warming, researchers find(2002)

Until not that long ago it was claimed that this increase in heat from Pluto must be seasonal. But that makes no sense. Pluto barely has an atmosphere capable of sustaining that heat for so long as it traveled away from our sun.

And the warming on Pluto has gotten even more intense, now even Charon, Pluto's moon, is showing an increase in the amount of heat they both release which is much larger than it's possible due to their small density and small size.


By Eric Hand Jul. 15, 2015 , 7:00 PM
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Radioactive elements in both bodies’ interiors could provide some of the heat needed for geological mountain building or ice flows that repave the surface. But Pluto, and especially Charon, are far too small for this heat to persist. The giant impact thought to have formed the two worlds could also provide a source of energy, but that probably happened billions of years ago.
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Geoffrey Collins, a planetary scientist at Wheaton College in Norton, Massachusetts, unaffiliated with the team, is amazed by the images. “Clearly were seeing internal activity on the surface of Pluto and Charon,” he says. “Something is pulling apart their ice crusts.Collins is excited because there is no way to explain the activity with conventional models of heat loss. “If the Charon-Pluto impact happened more recently, all the problems would be solved,” he says.
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Pluto is alive—but where is the heat coming from?

In the above link you will find other articles showing that other planets and moons with an atmosphere in our Solar System have been undergoing a drastic increase in warming.

Scientists find evidence of global warming on Mars

The article above is from May 2016. Mars has also been warming since at least 2001.

Climate Change on Jupiter.
Is shrinking superstorm evidence of climate change on Jupiter?

Climate change on Saturn.

The sudden warming of Saturn at least since 2004 which NASA could not truly explain.

The inexplicable enormous storms that appeared on a normally free storm Saturn but have appeared earlier than ever before.

And now.

Hexagon on Saturn: Nasa scientists ponder colour-changing north pole

Saturn's moon Titan also undergoing warming.
Is Titan Earth's evil twin? Saturn's moon has giant dunes made of METHANE that hint at dramatic global warming

The unexpected warm temperatures of Saturn's moon Enceladus.

"It is true that the composition of the atmospheres of all solar system planets are different. But isn't it too much of a coincidence that all these changes are occurring at the same time Earth is undergoing similar changes?"

For as long as these events have been occurring several "skeptics" have continued to claim that "these are all just coincidences" but when added together it shows more than just coincidence and I have not been the only one noticing this.

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edit on 18-6-2022 by ElectricUniverse because: correct title.


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posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 07:08 PM
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Award winning author Irene Baron wrote in 2015 in her own website the following points which agree with my argument. What's more she also presented evidence that even Earth's own moon is in fact emitting more heat than current models can explain.


PLUTO-INTERNAL-HEAT

Irene Baron: www.irenebaron.com
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Just how hot is our Moon internally? Suggestions as to the internal lunar temperatures from www.infoplease.com... tell us: “The internal temperature decreases from 830°C (1,530°F) at the center to 170°C (340°F) near the surface. The heat traveling outward near the lunar surface is about half that of the earth but still twice that predicted by current theory.” This last statement, that the heat traveling outward near the lunar surface is TWICE THAT PREDICTED BY CURRENT THEORY makes one wonder how the theories went wrong.

It appears that Pluto and Charon, as evidenced by their surfaces, are also experiencing internal heat in greater quantities than expected. If the surfaces of these two objects are changing due to geologic phenomenon, they have to be internally hot. Or are they heating up?
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Or, what other cause may there be that has not been suggested?
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Pluto and Sharon have opened a mass of questions. The answers, which will be applicable to all space bodies, will let us rethink what has been happening.

HEAT! Why are Pluto and Sharon not cold/colder internally? What is the origin of all that heat?

If the statement “The heat traveling outward near the lunar surface is about half that of the earth but still twice that predicted by current theory” was made many years ago, has anyone completed a hypothesis as to the cause? Perhaps the explanation will be the same for our Moon, Pluto and Sharon. And what other Solar System objects?
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PLUTO-INTERNAL-HEAT

Some info on who Irene Baron is.

ABOUT IRENE:

Of course Irene Baron also posts what some other astronomers have suggested, that such warming could have been caused by more recent meteor impacts. But this is happening in almost all, or all, planets and moons with an atmosphere in our Solar System. The claim that "it is because more recent "meteor impacts" is simply not plausible.

This fact points out that if these drastic changes have been occurring to most, if not all planets and moons with an atmosphere in our Solar System, then logic tells us the Earth should also be experiencing this increased heat, and not because anthropogenic CO2 as we are being led to believe by globalists.

Here is a pic showing the path our Solar System is taking through our Milky Way.



In which direction does the Sun move through the Milky Way?

This is the direction our Solar System is moving to.



What's more, recently there have been several scientific articles stating that for some strange reason the "universe is getting hotter and hotter as it expands."

The Universe Just Keeps Getting Hotter. That Shouldn't Be Happening.

It seems that the hotter sections of the galaxy have temperatures reaching 4 million Kelvin. Meanwhile research seems to suggest the region right outside our Solar System is about 1 million Kelvin, and the region the Solar System had been in for about 45k years or so has been about 4k Kelvin. Of course this interstellar cloud is also denser than the one we have been in for about 45k years.

It used to be thought that as the galaxy expands it should be getting cooler and cooler. But the contrary is what has been happening. Of course the pro-human induced global warming crowd even among scientists still want to claim that this Interstellar cloud being so hot has nothing to do with Earth's warming. But that's an opinion based on the false belief that Climate Change is occurring because of humans.

What's more most of the warming occurring on Earth has been occurring in our poles, where there is less atmospheric CO2 content than the rest of the planet.

What's causing the poles to warm faster than the rest of Earth?

So how can CO2 be the cause of climate change when most of the warming is happening in the areas with less atmospheric CO2 content?
That's when the "pro human-induced Climate Change crowd" claim that other causes are the reason for the warming. But these are the same people wanting to ignore the fact that we have been seeing this warming throughout our Solar System, and if our own moon is somehow emitting more heat than it is supposed to, twice the amount, then logic tells us the same should be happening to Earth.

What's more, NASA itself has been finding that high-energy X-rays are and have been, reaching the Earth from some unknown source close to or in our Solar System.


Saturday, September 24, 2016
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“We show that the X-ray contribution from the solar wind charge exchange is about forty percent in the galactic plane, and even less elsewhere,” said Massimiliano Galeazzi, an astrophysicist at the University of Miami and an author on the study. “So the rest of the X-rays must come from the Local Hot Bubble, proving that it exists.”

However, DXL also measured some high-energy X-rays that couldnt possibly come from the solar wind or the Local Hot Bubble.

“At higher energies, these sources contribute less than a quarter of the X-ray emission,” said Youaraj Uprety, lead author on the study and an astrophysicist at University of Miami at the time the research was conducted. “So theres an unknown source of X-rays in this energy range.

In the decades since we first discovered the X-ray emission that permeates space, three main theories have been bandied about to explain its origins. First, and quickly ruled out, was the idea that these X-rays are a kind of background noise, coming from the distant reaches of the universe. Our galaxy has lots of neutral gas that would absorb X-rays coming from distant sources – meaning that these X-rays must originate somewhere near our solar system.
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X-rays that don't come from any known source

For a few years I have been showing that these high energy x-rays(cosmic rays) have been increasing since about 1989-1991. About the same time that astronomers began to notice the warming on Pluto as it orbited away more and more from the sun and kept getting hotter.

Here are more recent graphs showing that this energy has continued to increase to this day.

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edit on 18-6-2022 by ElectricUniverse because: add, correct comment and add link.


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posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 07:08 PM
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In the following graphs I outlined that the quieter periods when we should be receiving less high energy x-rays reaching Earth, when our Sun's magnetic field is stronger during it's 11 year cycles, has been increasing which corroborates my argument that even today we are receiving more and more of these high energetic x-rays from an unknown source.



www.cosmicrays.unam.mx...

Ironically in the graph from the Oulu Neutron Monitor (Cosmic Observatory) also shows a drastic increase in the high energy x-rays occurred around 2014-2015.



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Exactly when Earth's magnetic field began weakening 10 times faster than in the past.

Earth's Magnetic Field Is Weakening 10 Times Faster Now By Kelly Dickerson published July 08, 2014

All of the above evidence, and I probably forgot some more, points out that this dramatic warming occurring on Earth have also been occurring throughout our Solar System. Even our own sun has been affected.


Declining solar activity linked to recent warming

The Sun may have caused as much warming as carbon dioxide over three years.

Quirin Schiermeier
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Joanna Haigh, an atmospheric physicist at Imperial College London, and her colleagues analysed daily measurements of the spectral composition of sunlight made between 2004 and 2007 by NASA's Solar Radiation and Climate Experiment (SORCE) satellite. They found that the amount of visible light reaching Earth increased as the Sun's activity declined — warming the Earth's surface. Their unexpected findings are published today in Nature1.
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Contrary to expectations, the net amount of solar energy reaching Earth's troposphere — the lowest part of the atmosphere — seems to have been larger in 2007 than in 2004, despite the decline in solar activity over that period.
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The full implications of the discovery are unclear. Haigh says that the current solar cycle could be different from previous cycles, for unknown reasons. But it is also possible that the effects of solar variability on atmospheric temperatures and ozone are substantially different from what has previously been assumed.
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Declining solar activity linked to recent warming

It is too much of a coincidence that all of the above has been happening at the same time that Earth has been undergoing drastic changes. But the thing is what we have experienced so far is nothing. The more we enter this new Interstellar Cloud or "new region of the Local Fluff" the worse and worse changes we will see on Earth and other planets and moons in our Solar System. These changes are drastic enough to possibly cause a massive extinction on Earth in the not so far future.

It is postulated that our Solar System, and Earth of course, will be completely inside this new Interstellar Cloud which so far is 1 million degrees kelvin within about 88 years. So most of us won't be alive, but we don't know how extreme these changes will be within a decade alone. All I know is that these "drastic changes" occurring on Earth cannot be stopped or even mitigated. So why are the global elites attempting to continue to claim that these changes are because of human induced/anthropogenic CO2?

These changes will get drastic enough that we as humans might have to live underground and we will have to have farms, and animal stock underground as well if we want to survive these changes. Eventually we will have to leave our Solar System which won't happen any time soon.

Related threads:

NASA-Funded Sounding Rocket Solves One Cosmic Mystery, Reveals Another

Cosmic Rays, especially X-Rays, The Solar System is Receiving Have been Increasing

Pluto is alive—but where is the heat coming from?

World needs ‘brain washing’ on climate change, Jerry Brown says at Vatican

Molten iron river discovered speeding beneath Russia and Canada

This is Why it is Not Possible that CO2 is the Cause of Global Warming.

Climate-change activists call for tax policies to discourage childbirth

Thousands and Thousands of Scientists Can't be Behind a Hoax(AGW), Right?

EPA Chief concedes climate rule; it's about 'reinventing a global economy'

A Heated Debate: Are Climate Scientists Being Forced to Toe the Line?

(Continued Below in case I need more space to post more corroborating evidence)



edit on 18-6-2022 by ElectricUniverse because: forgot to post link to Mexico's Cosmic Ray Observatory.



posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 07:08 PM
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(Continued in case I need more space to post more corroborating evidence)

Here is some more info on who Irene Baron is.


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ABOUT IRENE:
A former teacher and current pilot, Irene Baron also worked with the Advanced Research Project Agency (ARPA), Supreme Command Headquarters, Research & Development Center in Thailand for four years completing Top Secret work while employed by Battelle Memorial Institute as an Information Specialist in Geology & Hydrology. She was the project's Director of Aerial Photographer. In that capacity, she directed aerial photography from Air America/CIA Sikorski Helio-19 helicopters and two-winged aerial imaging aircraft. Irene contributed to the geology and hydrology sections of the now unclassified Mekong River Project book. She also authored the Operational Procedures Manual, Laboratory Material Division (all levels) for the Bangkok ARPA facility.

Baron used the knowledge gained and experiences with the military, government, Battelle Memorial Institute,
and science teacher to create the Mindreacher thriller series.

irenebaron.com...

Is it possible she has come to find info about this subject in one of the "Top Secret work" she has worked in the past? Her experience includes Top Secret military knowledge and the Advanced Research Project Agency (ARPA), Supreme Command Headquarters, Research & Development Center in Thailand.

BTW the Advanced Research Project Agency that Irene Baron worked for is part of the U.S. Department of Energy. So perhaps her questions and statements comes from actual knowledge she learned in these Top Secret programs, but she is neither denying nor refuting that her comments are because of that Top Secret knowledge. It might just be a coincidence, or maybe not.



edit on 18-6-2022 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 07:20 PM
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GTFOOH

Did we just learn our solar system is moving through space and the temperature varies?
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posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 07:34 PM
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No...we learned that Earth hasn't been the only planet or moon in the Solar System which has been undergoing climate change in the form of warming, and undergoing other geological changes as well.

We learned that these drastic changes occurring on Earth can be explained not because of "human induced CO2", but because we see an increase warming occurring in every planet and moon with an atmosphere, even our own moon is emitting more heat than it should and ironically we have been receiving more and more high energetic x-rays from some unknown source close to our Solar System, if not within our Solar System...

We learned that these changes will become much worse and much worse not just on Earth, and wasting billions on sequestering atmospheric CO2 is not going to stop nor mitigate these drastic changes.

Perhaps you should read the op before you post a response?




edit on 18-6-2022 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 07:40 PM
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It probably does the earth (Solar system rather) passes through the galactic plane and is sometimes above it and sometimes below it, it may pass through areas of more dense radiation including thermal and areas of increased dust, inside a nebula (Even a dissipating one which may no longer be visible in the visible spectrum) the temperature is significantly higher than outside one partially from the residual heat of the stellar explosion that gave birth to the nebula and also from the stars that are being (or have been) born within it.

Thermal imaging of space shows areas that are hotter and area's that are colder and the earlier universe is believed to have been much warmer than it is today with temperature maps often showing areas much further back in time (Distant) that are much hotter than most of the universe today but also galaxy's are warmer than the space around them so passing through the galactic plane would potentially be like passing through a slightly warmer area than above and below the plane of the galaxy but by how much?, probably not that much but still.

Also as it ages the sun get's hotter and hotter, eventually it will use up all it's hydrogen or rather enough of the hydrogen that it will begin to fuse other element's like helium and as it ages it will then fuse ever heavier element's, as it does it will also grow in size until it reaches a point within the end of it's life cycle were it will expand very fast perhaps even reaching and engulfing the current orbit of the earth, by that time the earth will likely be orbiting much closer anyway and life on the planet will no longer be possible, at least not life as we know it.

But that is just what scientists tell us and what they believe.

The sun is a G2 Yellow Dwarf star about half way through it's life cycle.

The sun also has weather, it may also get hotter for extended periods of time and at other times it may for some reason become much cooler, something like that cooler period may have happened a little over 2.2 billion years ago triggering a huge period of massive ice ages during which the earth may have resembled the plant Hoth from star wars even at the equator with unknown periods of warming between, it is theorized that the planet may have frozen to the equator several times over and that the massive glaciation may be one explanation for the so called great non conformity a period in the earth's history were up to two miles of the earths surface seems to have been lost to geological science by being worn away, two miles is enough time for entire ecosystems to have arisen then vanished during warmer periods and also before the start of the snow ball earth period which only ended between about 650 million to about 550 million years ago, according to the theory that is, coinciding with the Cambrian explosion (not an explosion but an explosion of life form's which has since been shown to not be totally correct since complex multicellular life fossils well predating the period have now been found).

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posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 07:56 PM
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I've been trying to explain this to people for years. No one is listening. They're all on the climate change bandwagon.



posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: VierEyes
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I've been trying to explain this to people for years. No one is listening. They're all on the climate change bandwagon.


Well it is climate change but not in the way that they are thinking.



posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: VierEyes
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I've been trying to explain this to people for years. No one is listening. They're all on the climate change bandwagon.



That's my point, Ive known the solar system moves through space for a while and Im suppose to believe no astrophysicist theorized we may run into a warmer area, a colder one, or one that has other dangerous space weather.

Don't need to read a wall of text to pose that question, besides to read this mammoth thread Im gonna need a cup of coffee



posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 08:24 PM
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That is why all the planets are changing and many suns are going kaput!



posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 08:35 PM
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But But But ..... Global Warming ? Al Gore ? Fossil Fuels Bad ?

are you telling me that the Nature of the Universe is ever changing and there is no way we as humans can control the forces of nature ?

If that is what you are saying then ... Good for you using your Brain.



posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 08:37 PM
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Blaming CO2 was never logical it has a natural counter balance with plants We made it go up higher with large scale deforestation not burning fossil fuels

It's almost as if they want to keep everyone looking at the wrong thing like theres some pollutant spreading into every part of earth slowly killing us all
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posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 08:44 PM
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Ive known about this for years. Ive also been in agreement with your threads on this, mostly. The age of the Universe is where I disagree. We have been told the age of our planet, the moon, the Sun, and the Universe by the same people who hide other facts from us. annoying little facts like giants on Earth, the Watchers who technology comes from, and carbon dating nonsense. Its calming to know Earth has been around for billions of years, and dinosaurs were here millions of years ago. Things have been pretty good for so long, odds are, there will be no drastic changes. Forget those pesky facts about soft dinosaur tissue being found. Giants? What giants? Oh those bible myths? LOL!

Tomorrow being Fathers day, I may bounce this subject off my dad, as Ill be making lunch over there. He is a scientist, and a Creationist, and has held many titles including Director of Research, Chemist, Microbiologist, Bacteriologist, and more. He constantly reads and researches everything science. Books everywhere.

On another note, Biblically speaking, I think Earth may see some terrible changes over the next 7-8 years. So scary, that men's hearts will fail them.

Thanks for your research and threads on this subject!



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posted on Jun, 18 2022 @ 10:29 PM
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Excellent research!! Gave me a sudden flashback chill of the film "Knowing." Agree with you on the climate change inconvenient lies being spun into epic madness. The "Coincidence Rule" is this: one occasion of "something fishy" happening is an anomaly, two is a coincidence, but three is a pattern. But if three or more is a pattern, we are way beyond "pattern" territory and well into some galactic peril. Not to worry Al Gore has a plan to keep the masses dazed & confused.

I was somewhat aware but did not know this new "interstellar cloud" was postulated on back in 1978.



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posted on Jun, 19 2022 @ 03:58 AM
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Some very interesting reading there mate - the UK's Channel Four also made a relevant scientific documentary which explores some of your points below.




See 13:00

Video




Also a thread here exploring reasons why 'the Rockefellers and Rothschilds are at the forefront of the climate hysteria'.




posted on Jun, 19 2022 @ 05:45 AM
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Many of us here on ATS new this years ago. Even the black guy that was head of NASA at the time made a video that addressed this problem and wanted people that were ON and OFF planet to be aware.



posted on Jun, 19 2022 @ 05:51 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Great thread. You put a massive amount of work into the opening comments.


Cheers



posted on Jun, 19 2022 @ 06:07 AM
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Great thread, thank you for posting.







 
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