Russia is starting a giant energy project

a reply to: RussianTroll

What do you mean by intellectual?

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: RussianTroll

Have you heard of a man called Benjamin Rich? I think he's English, he's a youtuber who loves Russia and other former Soviet states. He visited a Soviet sanatorium where Yuri Gagarin was sent to rest after making his famous first flight into space. I can't remember where it was, somewhere in the east maybe, a mountain resort.

Edit: Bald and Bankrupt is his name on youtube

Unfortunately, I don't know this story. I can't help you.
I know that human fame played a cruel joke on Yuri Gagarin. He became an alcoholic because of his world fame. But he tried to overcome this disease, to return, but died. This is a tragedy.
I know it's not from the newspapers. In Saratov, where I live, there is Gagarin's landing site, there is Gagarin's museum and the building of the flight school where he studied. My office was in this building, it now belongs to the oil company LukOil. I worked there, and together with the top managers of the company I met his daughter in Saratov every year on April 12th. I created the Gagarin Museum in Saratov.

Great personality and great tragedy! We are all pygmies before the personality of Gagarin.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

How do you know Russia? From CNN or BBC articles? LOL!)))

Never watch them, but over 20 years of embassy support work had me over there a good many times. Even went that on a HS trip, I went to HS in Paris.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: RussianTroll

if you improve your tech and production instead of just selling your natural resources. The US economy has already reached that stage, and you can catch up.

Ummm...are you attempting to be humorous...or disingenuous...

What exactly...beyond weapons...is actually produced in the US...?

The Economy is in free fall and is on the verge of a major recession and possible depression...

Why would Russia want to emulate that...?



YouSir

a reply to: RussianTroll

That is fascinating. Gagarin is a great man for sure. A great pilot and the first man in space. And he was a charismatic man. The story I've heard here in the West is that his charisma frightened the government in America and made them pour money into the space program, the effort to get to the moon.

And I remember hearing that he got into trouble with Soviet leadership later in life, he was too famous. But I mean no offense, still a great cosmonaut.

a reply to: YouSir

Weapons and other high tech. Don't get me wrong, US needs to adapt too. But shifting to renewables in order to preserve fossil resources is sound in the long term.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: RussianTroll

That is fascinating. Gagarin is a great man for sure. A great pilot and the first man in space. And he was a charismatic man. The story I've heard here in the West is that his charisma frightened the government in America and made them pour money into the space program, the effort to get to the moon.

not to drift topic but that's absurd.
USSR could have had Boris Badenov make that flight and be equally freaked. Gagarin just rode the bus. The achievement was the issue, not Gagarin.
and sure he was quite a pilot.
Soviet program never recovered from the death of Korolyev.

back to topic--would this work in the Bay of Fundy? I understand they get huge tidal action.

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: RussianTroll

I decided today to digress from the topic of Ukraine and tell you about the largest energy project in the world, which Russia has begun to implement. In the future, this project will allow it to become a virtual monopoly in the production of environmentally friendly "green" renewable energy.

I suspect they will be critizized for this Green project instead of praised. Much like Tesla is now.

Dams in general are already being said for years by some environmentalists to be not that green. They are greener than burning fossil fuels, which is important, but the fluctuating water levels behind a dam are a major contributor to the worlds' methane emissions from the growth-and-decay of plants. Dams also create environmental damage by flooding animal habitats and cutting off fish routes.

How ‘Green’ Is Hydropower?

Hydropower is NOT Clean Energy: Dams and Reservoirs are Major Drivers of Climate Change

Opinion: There’s nothing green about dams. The federal infrastructure bill should tear them down

So what do you expect? A perfect solution to everything? Doesn't excist. Stop whining. Its never good enoug for the rainbow people is it.

a reply to: RussianTroll

What an amazing project !!

Glad we still have dreamers, visionaries, builders, engineers, skilled-workers, and the political-willpower to get these kind of mega-projects going.

It will be cool to see if we get some video updates, when the construction phase begins.

Relentless, howling winds ;
Choppy waves, pounding everything non-stop ;
Ice and cold for around 5 months per year...
Like : a LOT of ice.

What a challenge !

Could you post an accessible vid of the area, like from a boat or ship, or from a vista on those hiking-trails you mentioned ?
( My short YoobeyToobey search had no results for Penzhina Bay. )
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We have The Bay-of-Fundy here in Canada, where they boast about having the highest tides in the world, at about 16 metres !

Twice everyday the bay fills and empties of a billion tonnes of water during each tide cycle—that’s more than the flow of all the world’s freshwater rivers combined. ...

When folks go-down at low tide, to collect clams and such, they go on horseback, or ATV now.
Reason being, well the story is, that when you notice the water coming-in, it's already too-late, because the water rushes-in faster than a human can run.
( Ok-ok : maybe faster than a human in rubber-boots, with a shovel in one hand, and a bucket of clams in the other... LoL )



There has been chatter over the years of some kind of tidal-wave project, to produce electricity.
As my weak memory recalls, it was mostly floating turbines they were looking-at.

Thanks for posting the news !

originally posted by: YouSir

What exactly...beyond weapons...is actually produced in the US...?

Funny question

Looks great.
It will never come to fruition.
It will be a money pit that constantly gets skimmed by upper level “project managers”.

That’s if shovel ever touches the ground.
Another Putin folly.

a reply to: RussianTroll

So, they'll be sending lots of people off to Siberia again?

a reply to: spacedoubt

kinda like their space shuttle program, one flight then the rest were left to rot.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: RussianTroll

So, they'll be sending lots of people off to Siberia again?

I was thinking about that.
Labor might come from all those Ukrainians that were “evacuated” to RuZZia. 10s of thousands have already been removed from UKR. Kidnapped, if you will.
Ready made slave labor.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: spacedoubt

kinda like their space shuttle program, one flight then the rest were left to rot.

That really could have been something too.
I mean mostly ripped off from NASA.
But still they were unable to make it work.

originally posted by: spacedoubt

But still they were unable to make it work.

And here we are in this age and time, NASA admitted they can't go back anymore because the technology is lost.

originally posted by: ElGoobero

back to topic--would this work in the Bay of Fundy? I understand they get huge tidal action.

There has been talk for decades about a similar (though smaller) project in Britain - but environmental issues mean it's never gone beyond the drawing board, though it's still possible it may one day be developed.

en.wikipedia.org...

My suspicion is that Russia won't have such concerns, given their past track record (anyone remember the Aral Sea?)

a reply to: Xtrozero

Guys, this russian troll (Гэбистская сука) operative is having a laugh. This project, like many other russian projects, will end up in the gutter and will make a few oligarchs even richer.
What do you expect from the country that has no roads outside of Moscow, 40 million russians having a hole in the ground as a $hitter, totally bankrupted its space program (Roscosmos), army with egg box carton for protection, all this simply because they'll steal anything. It's a make up of their DNA.

This is a 20 year plus project. Giant power plant and I would assume a lock for ships and docking area for ships. Hundreds or maybe thousands of miles of huge power lines across no mans land. People could work on this their entire life. How deep is the inlet anyway?

originally posted by: RussianTroll
the largest energy project in the world, which Russia has begun to implement.

Where did you get the information that this project started to be implemented?

I could only find this:

Instructions following Eastern Economic Forum plenary session

October 16, 2021 16:00

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The instructions to the Government concern the creation of hydrogen and ammonia production centres that would use the energy generated by tidal power plants, including the Penzhinskaya, Tugurskaya and Mezenskaya facilities, and engaging foreign partners in this effort, as well as organising an international Arctic expedition based at the North Pole drifting station.
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en.kremlin.ru...


and

13 July 2021, 09:54

H2 Clean Energy (Н2 Чистая энергетика), together with the Corporation for the Development of the Kamchatka Territory, has begun developing a project for the construction of the Penzhina Tidal Power Plant (PES) in the Sea of Okhotsk, the capacity of which is supposed to be used to produce hydrogen. This was announced on Tuesday in the press service of the company.
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tass.ru...