The West is draining Ukraine

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Yes slang if you will for the BBC

He's right too. It's Ukranian kids taking the Russian bullets by the thousands, horrendous, all fuelled by flooding Ukraine with West's weapons. Fact and true

Now it’s about “the kids”

Man. This is like a rudimentary course on the use of propaganda.

“Nazis” “bio weapons” “FOR GODS SAKE, the kids!”

It’s like some of you are reading out of a playbook

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

You made repeated accusations with zero evidence.

Who specifically did I accuse? What were my specific accusations?

I stated I have nothing to prove to those who have repeatedly lied to me and or refused to back up their claims with sources. That is a statement of fact.

Do you have any evidence to support those claims?

Find someone who has shown they have integrity to ask for it and I will be happy to oblige them.

Or do you want to continue this stoopid game of yours?

What game?

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: NoMoreFools
Ukrainians have continually stated that they will fight to the last man.

and they are brainwashed by the mafia regime that took control in a coup in 2014 and you have been brainwashed too

The want to defend one’s country is “brainwashing”? So you would not defend your home?

originally posted by: Salander
The government makes repeated claims without evidence, claims most often contradicted by facts and evidence, yet PG4 remains silent about that....

The evacuation of Azovstal comes to mind. lol

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

We had some ex MOD guy on the TV a few weeks ago. When asked was how far the West would go in stopping the Russian invasion he replied "until every Ukranian is dead"

Have you got a link to that?

If it was on the BBC, ITV, Sky, Channel 4 etc it should be very easy to find a link.

Nope but it was a few months ago at the start of the campaign FB and it's true. Just like the Bush Wars in southern Africa of the late 70's and 80's, the West will back up and supply massive amounts of weaponry if it means foreigners do the fighting for them and it gets one over Russia, or as was then Communism, Cuba and the Soviets. All good on fueling the fire as long as no NATO / Western forces are seen to be involved

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Gulf of Tonkin, all the material exposed in the Pentagon Papers, all the material exposed in the Afghanistan Papers, all the silly bull# about Covid, masks and clot shots. MH17, the Ghost of Kiev and all the Ukraine propaganda.

The list is endless.

a reply to: NoMoreFools

Washington Will Fight Russia to the Last Ukrainian

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: NoMoreFools
Ukrainians have continually stated that they will fight to the last man.

and they are brainwashed by the mafia regime that took control in a coup in 2014 and you have been brainwashed too

I’d say that the invading Russians are brainwashed. But that wouldn’t be accurate, as most are conscripts who were lied to about being there in the first place.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

....all fuelled by flooding Ukraine with West's weapons. Fact and true

All fuelled by Russia invading a non-threatening neighbour.
If they hadn't invaded and started killing people this wouldn't be happening....pretty straight forward.

But they did invade....but it seems you believe the Ukrainian people should just roll over and submit to Russian dominance, again.

I'd hate to think I was in the trenches with you.

never been put in that situation so who knows. As a tin of sardines sent into the guts of a mincing machine to fight the wars of a brainwashing mafia elite, well I'd have to have a good think about it

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

....all fuelled by flooding Ukraine with West's weapons. Fact and true

All fuelled by Russia invading a non-threatening neighbour.
If they hadn't invaded and started killing people this wouldn't be happening....pretty straight forward.

But they did invade....but it seems you believe the Ukrainian people should just roll over and submit to Russian dominance, again.

I'd hate to think I was in the trenches with you.

And why are you not in the trenches, but on the couch?
So is it safer to fight for the "freedom" and "independence" of tens of millions of people killed by Britain in all parts of the world?)))

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: NoMoreFools

Washington Will Fight Russia to the Last Ukrainian

Ya know, Russia COULD stop trying to steal a country. Then the west would have no reason to help.

Weird concept, right?

a reply to: Freeborn

Oh, but Russia's neighbor was very threatening. Indeed, it has been shelling parts of Donbas for many years. It was harboring US biolabs working on bioweapons.

If the Mexicans had been shelling Arizona and California, what would we do?

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

If it was on BBC then it will still be there.
If its there you should be able to provide a link.

There news website goes back years and there are video's available from several sources.

Surely you understand that you can't make claims like that and not back it up with any sort of link or source?

originally posted by: Freeborn

I'd hate to think I was in the trenches with you.

You won't be FB. I'll be chilling in a different place, anywhere I can be to survive rather than taking a bullet in the head for a mafia elite that for them we matter like a cockroach. You can take the bullets Lordy me....................... After what Westminster did to your quite recent relatives and ancestors on the island of Little Britain I'm amazed you'd so eagerly take the Queens Crown and lay down your life for them. Quite amazing really but there's nother stranger than folk

originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: Salander
The government makes repeated claims without evidence, claims most often contradicted by facts and evidence, yet PG4 remains silent about that....

The evacuation of Azovstal comes to mind. lol

How so?

Did any of russia's absurd claims ever turn out to be true?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

....all fuelled by flooding Ukraine with West's weapons. Fact and true

All fuelled by Russia invading a non-threatening neighbour.
If they hadn't invaded and started killing people this wouldn't be happening....pretty straight forward.

But they did invade....but it seems you believe the Ukrainian people should just roll over and submit to Russian dominance, again.

I'd hate to think I was in the trenches with you.

Aye, it's all very VERY straightforward and clear who is entirely to blame. The USA did NOT force Russia to invade another country. The USA did NOT force Russia to destroy the homes of tens of thousands of ethnic Russian living in Ukraine, forcing them to flee to places like the UK (where they have been amazed at the kindness of strangers).

Admittedly, Putin may have been duped by his acolytes telling him porkies and may genuinely have though the eastern Ukrainians would welcome his Nazi troops. But that's his problem. Sadly, he's taking it out on the eastern Ukrainians like the psychopathic butcher he is.

But it is very easy for Putin to end the killing. Very VERY VERY easy. And only he can do so.

originally posted by: NoMoreFools

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: NoMoreFools

Washington Will Fight Russia to the Last Ukrainian

Ya know, Russia COULD stop trying to steal a country. Then the west would have no reason to help.

Weird concept, right?

US ready to 'fight to the last drop of Ukrainian, European blood': former UK MP

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Gulf of Tonkin, all the material exposed in the Pentagon Papers, all the material exposed in the Afghanistan Papers, all the silly bull# about Covid, masks and clot shots. MH17, the Ghost of Kiev and all the Ukraine propaganda.

The list is endless.

I have ignored zero of those topics.

Ever.

(Though 2 of your examples were always fake propaganda)



At least you tried.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Freeborn



If the Mexicans had been shelling Arizona and California, what would we do?

Well, we'd probably object to them shelling Arizona.