Footage of Ru forces destroying M777 howitzers with drone and artillery strikes

Ukrainians are poorly trained and lack combined battle tactics. M777 on their own are sitting ducks for Havoc and Alligator attack helicopters which have radar that pick them up M777 logistics trucks from miles and away and destroy them using long range anti tank missiles.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: 35Foxtrot

So, are you saying that with a drone hovering over the area where UA forces are hiding with howitzers they just shot a few artillery rounds in that area and called it a day?

I can address reasonable positions and questions but I don't deal in the absurd.

lol your obviously ignorant to military tactics, the ballistics radars will have honed in on the Russian artillery and have already called in a counter battery strike. time and time again Russian artillery is seen as abandoned before a counter battery because they know the steel rain is coming for them. Ukrainian forces have the decency to take the artillery with them when they reposition. lol the longer the fire mission the higher the chance they get hit by counter battery. Nice to see your trollness again, I see the dispo has re upped on your 4 dollar a g swag.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

It's OK.

If you need to believe that an enemy artillery unit that not only has their enemy in site but also has them in range and a drone hovering above them to correct fire survived because there is no more footage you are free to do so.

a reply to: MConnalley

Ukrainian counter battery radars are wrecked by Su-35 jets which shoot Kh-31P long range anti radiation missiles.

a reply to: Grimpachi

I didn't say that. Did I? Stop squirming.


Your thread title is not accurate. Some might say, dishonest.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AcuraILXV

I doubt it's more accurate. China's Beidou GPS and Russia's GLONASS GPS are on par with America's GPS GPS in terms of accuracy. But the US lacks laser guided artillery which China and Russia uses other than GPS guided artillery. Laser guided artillery can hit moving targets. GPS guided artillery cannot.

Why is Russia just bombing the crap out of everything if their stuff is so accurate?

You must be referring to Azovstal.

Why would they waste guided munitions on a kilometer of land when they didn't know the enemy's exact position.

The right tool for the right job. Guided munitions are not always needed.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I don't care what some say. I care what more honest people with common sense say.

originally posted by: AcuraILXV


The latest Msta-S M2 shoots laser guided and GLONASS guided rounds. Other than America, China and Russia both already have such guided howitzer rounds. They don't need to capture.

It is not all that easy. They need a laser designator connected and in use and I haven't seen too many reports that Russia has had very many in use, unlike Ukraine. This is why we see the wide range bombing going on that really has zero guidance involved. Watching the first volley of attack there isn't anything guidance about it so why are we even talking about laser guidance here?

a reply to: Grimpachi

Your thread title was honest?!!!

Come off it.

You've been well and truly caught at it.

And you know it.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You are free to believe what you want even when you are wrong.

originally posted by: AcuraILXV

Different munitions for different purposes.

Ok, I see, like the purpose is to randomly kill civilians using unguided munitions.

a reply to: AcuraILXV

Helicopters are prey for Stingers.

a reply to: Grimpachi

here's a question, if it's a loitering drone capable of firing weapons, and shooting video, why doesn't it show the destroyed howitzers?
surly it's capable to loitering high and far enough away that it wouldn't be hit by it's own friendly fire now would it.

i mean that's a logical conclusion for a drone capable of loitering, firing missiles, dropping bombs and shooting video and your wanting to show those capabilities off.

originally posted by: PraetorianAZ

originally posted by: 35Foxtrot
a reply to: Grimpachi


Am I missing something? The Russkis clearly are.

All I see is a miss in the first strike in the open (maybe a little shrapnel damage to soft targets in the area) and a whole lotta poorly-targeted, half-hearted arty in the woods?

Stormtroopers hit a greater percentage of targets. Pew Pew.

You don't need a direct hit with munitions like these to cause casualties. Just hand grenades can have a kill radius up to 20 meters. Now imagine the kill radius of these bombs.

Like the initial strike that missed? It looked less than 20 ft from the man walking and he turned and ran away, LOL. Not very effective cluster munitions or whatever it was being dropped.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

Why do you think it is a loitering drone capable of firing weapons?

You did see them use artillery right? Even if it could fire missiles why would it when artillery is cheaper and can cover a much wider area repeatedly?

a reply to: Grimpachi

Why do you think it is a loitering drone capable of firing weapons?

your 2nd link says it is and is capable do you even read them?

The Russian loitering kamikaze drone Kub-BLA (Cube UAV) was developed by the Kalashnikov Concern. The drone is capable of speeding up to 130 kilometers per hour. Its flight duration is limited to 30 minutes. The range is about 38 kilometers. The drone can carry up to three kilograms of payload. See more at english.pravda.ru...

your post with it,

english.pravda.ru... A new report is saying the initial attack was from a Russian Cube Kamakazi drone. That makes more sense because what I thought was a missile curved a lot in that video. The video wasn't to show off killing the howitzers it was to show off the drone.

Grims second post

and your video doesn't show anything but rounds going off, doesn't prove a damn thing.

originally posted by: Grimpachi


The right tool for the right job. Guided munitions are not always needed.

You are talking out your butt here, so what is your expertise in understanding how Russia uses its equipment. Russia has this all planned out... Bla bla bla I think Russia is doing all they can and what they have in equipment and personnel is just not good enough for them to achieve their objectives. They blow up a whole town because those doing the blowing up do not have the equipment to do surgical strikes which are far and few in-between from Russia as we see them just flatten wide areas instead while Ukraine have been very successful in its surgical strikes. They are not holding back here with the "good stuff", so for whatever the reason is they don't have the good stuff in any quantity to make much of an impact on the war.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

your 2nd link says it is and is capable do you even read them?

The first part of the video shows the Kamakazi drone going Kamakazi.

Do you know what Kamakazi means? It means that it is like a suicide bomber. It destroys itself in the attack.

They don't carry missiles. They are the missile.

and your video doesn't show anything but rounds going off, doesn't prove a damn thing.

You are free to believe what you want even if it goes against all reason and common sense.

a reply to: Grimpachi

The first part of the video shows the Kamakazi drone going Kamakazi. Do you know what Kamakazi means? It means that it is like a suicide bomber. It destroys itself in the attack. They don't carry missiles. They are the missile.

so how does it continue to record video?

was there a second drone?

if so why not show the howitzers destroyed instead of just a bunch of round going off and no confirmation of the destruction of said howitzers?

I beleive it's russian proaganda that you've swallowed hook line and sinker.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: BernnieJGato

Why do you think it is a loitering drone capable of firing weapons?

You did see them use artillery right? Even if it could fire missiles why would it when artillery is cheaper and can cover a much wider area repeatedly?

When you talk about laser guidance, unless the drone system is specifically designed and connected to the package being used, in this case, artillery, it is normally from front line soldiers lasering the target. I would think in this case we would see more from the soldiers and not drones and that is why you see more unguided than guided. GPS guided is much simpler to use as the drone can be just a camera and maybe a laser pointer to determine the GPS location to bomb.