Footage of Ru forces destroying M777 howitzers with drone and artillery strikes

a reply to: Grimpachi

"You are free to believe what you want even if it goes against all reason and common sense"

Well, you are free to do the same.

As you have amply demonstrated many times.

russian guided drone "kamikazes" are notorious for missing there target, unlike the American switchblades lol so no one cares gimmy boy, pack a bowl.

The stuff of wet dreams for some here

a reply to: MConnalley

How much do these Kamikaze drones weigh?

How much kinetic damage can they do against steel targets?

a reply to: vonclod

Maybe not dreams, if you get my drift.....?

While it is true the 3 M777 shown in the clip may only be damaged, it is true M777 are easy prey for attack aircraft including kamikaze drones. M777 is not a wunderweapon. It could be a game changer if supplied in very large numbers exceeding 5,000 units, but not in small numbers such as 100.

a reply to: Salander

Russia lied about MH 17. Get over it.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Salander

The way the wreckage was spread out, recovered missile fragments, and reconstruction of MH 17 using actual wreckage by the Dutch Safety Board indicates a missile detonating above the MH 17 cockpit to cause it to break apart mid air.

MH17 crash: Missile fragments reportedly ‘found in bodies’ of victims

www.independent.co.uk...

MH17 reconstruction - Short version

m.youtube.com...

They showed that it exploded about four metres above the tip of the aircraft's nose on the left of the cockpit, showering the plane with fragments of the warhead.
The forward section of the plane was penetrated by hundreds of high-energy objects from the warhead, killing the three crew in the cockpit immediately and causing the plane to break up in stages:
First the cockpit broke away - but the plane continued its flight
After a short time, the wingtips came off and the rear of the plane broke away, with the tail section then separating further
The main body of the plane crashed into the ground upside down
Investigators believe it was between 60 and 90 seconds after the cockpit came off that the rest of the aircraft hit the ground.

www.bbc.com...

Map of a Tragedy:
How MH17 Came Apart Over Ukraine

graphics.wsj.com...

www.bbc.com...

And….

originally posted by: Xcalibur254

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Do you want to resurrect the MH17 controversy?

Just as it has done in virtually every single military engagement since Vietnam, as we saw from the Pentagon Papers, the US DoD lies as a matter of habit.

MH17 was just another false flag, in this case meant to blame Russia. The sudden disappearance of the Spaniard who blew the whistle regarding ATC activity shows that. MH17 went down from 2 Ukrainian fighters. The facts support that.

There's someone out there that still believes the "Carlos" story? It's been determined that "Carlos" is actually a Spanish conman named Jose Carlos Barrios Sanchez. He's even admitted that he was paid $48,000 by RT to make the tweet.

On top of that, he went on RT two months before MH-17 was shot down and said he had fled the country. So even if he had legitimately worked as an air traffic controller in Ukraine (he didn't) how could he have been working that day when by his own admission he had fled the country?

——-Whst was your rebuttal against actual facts and evidence…,

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Are you trying to change the subject?

Does every government on the planet generate propaganda? Of course.

Who generates more, Washington and London or Moskow?

If that question could be answered, my bet would be on the western governments. Don't forget the message of the Downing Street Memo. Don't forget Douma.

a reply to: Salander

That would be Moscow.

By a country mile.

But you lap up everything that the Kremlin/ Lavrov says.

Gullible, much?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Thanks for the spell check. I thought the spelling looked wrong.

Still, given the long history of Pentagon deception, its purposeful withholding and distortion of facts, from Vietnam to Syria, the Kremlin has more credibility.

originally posted by: AcuraILXV
While it is true the 3 M777 shown in the clip may only be damaged, it is true M777 are easy prey for attack aircraft including kamikaze drones. M777 is not a wunderweapon. It could be a game changer if supplied in very large numbers exceeding 5,000 units, but not in small numbers such as 100.

Are you under the impression that 100 is all we can afford to give Ukraine?

We can provide 5000 of them tomorrow if 5000 turns out to be what Ukraine needs to remove russians from Ukrainian territory.



But IF this russia propaganda has ANY basis in reality, then Ukraine needs additional M777 training, because russian artillery has no ability to destroy M777 with artillery if Ukraine is using it properly since M77 has nearly double the russian's range and roughly 90% better accuracy.

a reply to: Salander

Spell check?

No. Not really.

You do remember that the Kremlin denied any intention to invade Ukraine and was just conducting military exercises?

Just before they invaded?

That sort of credibility?

Russia, with it's suppression of free speech and crackdowns against any dissent and prison sentences for even calling it a "war"?

Call yourself a human being?

Hmmmmmm....

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: MConnalley

How much do these Kamikaze drones weigh?

How much kinetic damage can they do against steel targets?

Not enough, but the shaped charge they carry internally can penetrate over (classified, but more than 4) inches of hardened steel.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: MConnalley

How much do these Kamikaze drones weigh?

How much kinetic damage can they do against steel targets?

not sure to there weight but there are two variants, one anti infantry and the other anti armor, american switch blades i mean i have no clue about the kamikazes weight either.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Biden is not king. Biden needs congress approval to give Ukraine 5,000 M777. And that's not happening.

Kub Bla is said to be pretty good at killing artillery.



There's another model called Lancet that was used in Syria.

originally posted by: flubber
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Biden is not king. Biden needs congress approval to give Ukraine 5,000 M777. And that's not happening.

Ukraine doesn't need 5000 Howitzers to defeat russia's invasion.

100 'might' even be enough if used properly.



And you have zero evidence that congress isn't telling the biden idiot what to do and say anyway.

Someone certainly is.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Thanks for the spell check. I thought the spelling looked wrong.

Still, given the long history of Pentagon deception, its purposeful withholding and distortion of facts, from Vietnam to Syria, the Kremlin has more credibility.

I posted info about the airliner being shot down. the SU-25 frogfoot could not get up to the altitude of the airliner,let alone do it carrying a BUK. the SU-25 has heat seekers for its missile load. It cannot get to that Alt,unless it is without ANYTHING on its wings,and then only for a few seconds before it stalls. Russia was caught editing WIKI,but I got my info from the aircrafts manufacturer itself on its flight profile/specs