Quebec Drops vaccine mandate for healthcare workers

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: visitedbythem
The vaccinated's bodies are still making and shedding protein spikes. That's a big concern. Unvaccinated are getting blood clots from being around them. My buddy was in the hospital yesterday with a clot in his leg. He doesnt have covid, and is nonvaxxed. Its the vaccinated doing it.

The spike protein isn't an infectious agent.

If it did get out of a vaccinated person and into the body of an unvaccinated person, it would give the unvaccinated person an immune response to the virus, just as if they had been vaccinated.

LOL.

Junk foods, no exercise, and salt in the diet are probably more likely to be the cause of blood clots.

Still find it funny when people bring up things like 'oh a friend/relative/person that someone knows got X after being vaccinated, ergo the vax did it' without mentioning anything about said persons age, prior health issues, lifestyle and the simple fact under the basis of pure probability stuff like that can and WILL happen simply due to total coincidence from sheer numbers, and when you have large vaccination drives with 100's 1000's being done daily, then yeah those probabilities of unrelated stuff happening like blood clots after an unrelated event like getting a vaccine go up even larger. Doesnt mean the vax had even the slightest to do with it.

I was healthy 4 years back, then one day i woke up dizzy and the dizziness didnt go away for 3 years... nothing could really be found as to why. # happens... doesnt mean X lead to Y unless you have actual proof of it, and all these 'the vac did this to me' (outside of the expected potential side effects of coarse in small numbers) are simply people ascribing coincidence as humans tend to do to all, all to frequently.

originally posted by: DeadlyStaringFrog
It's still nonsense. Unvaccinated will have to get tested 3 times a week while the vaccinated will be free to spread covid. Why is it ok for the vaccinated to spread covid? Is it somehow better if you catch the virus from a vaccinated person?

Thank you for being a critical thinker. It's dumbfounding people cannot connect the dots.

Mass vaccinations = mass spread of covid. Simple math.

a reply to: chr0naut

You are wrong again sir. The spike protein is dangerous. Since the clot shots have been released, scientists have injected animals with a purified form. It caused harm and death.

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Harm and death also happens in humans.

The spike protein is the active ingredient in the bioweapon injection.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: chr0naut

You are wrong again sir. The spike protein is dangerous. Since the clot shots have been released, scientists have injected animals with a purified form. It caused harm and death.

principia-scientific.com...#:~:text=In%20a%20study%20published%20in%20Nature%20Neuro science%2C%20lab,blood-brain%20barrier%20and%20caused%20damage%20to%20the%20brain.

Harm and death also happens in humans.

The spike protein is the active ingredient in the bioweapon injection.

The posted article misquotes and misinterprets several scientific papers. It also suggests that some of those papers required special permission to access, however they are in the public domain and publicly viewable.

An example of the deliberate misinformation, and the basis for the article itself, is that the article assumes that the spike protein is in the vaccines and migrates around the body from the injection. The vaccines do not contain the spike protein, they contain an mRNA sequence.

The studies referenced have shown that vaccine lipids, used to encapsulate and protect the mRNA sequence in the vaccine, do migrate around the body and have been shown to accumulate in organs that accumulate fats, and sometimes remain there for the couple of weeks covered by the study duration, but they don't contain the spike protein, they contain the mRNA sequence, at least until it breaks down.

The vaccines contain an mRNA sequence which, when it penetrates a cell, that cell's ribosomes make the spike protein, and this is entirely encapsulated within the cell. The spike protein itself is not flowing though anyone's bloodstream where it might have done damage if it were dangerous as the article falsely suggests.

The spike protein, once it is created in the ribosome within the cell, migrates out to the surface of the cell, where it binds to ACE2 on the cell wall. It is stuck there, on the outside of the cell, presenting itself to the immune system, but not able to escape into the bloodstream or lymph. Since it isn't an infective agent in itself, it does not get into other cells.

So, as you see, the article is entirely wrong, and has no scientific merit at all, and this is fairly typical for the type of article on the site.

The posted website "principia-scientific.com", has mostly articles that are anti-vax, or that suggest 5G communications are killing people, or that a pedophile Satanist elite are controlling everything (how is that science?), or that are climate science denialist articles or book promotion.

The site includes this disclaimer: "Principia Scientific International CIC publishes medical material on our website for educational purposes only. The contents should not be considered to be medical advice. All articles on the site represent the opinion(s) of the contributor(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of the association". So as far as their principles go, they aren't going to stick to them, and they tell you so in the disclaimer.

The site also claims to be representative of a charitable not for profit company, yet it is an Amazon Associate, and posts advertisements? This may be because the website was initially created to advertise its series of climate change denial books for sale on Amazon, as is noted in its 'about' page.

Most of the 'articles' on the sites are cherry-picked reposts of articles available elsewhere. It does not seem to have its own journalistic or editorial staff, evidenced by the bylines on its articles.