Pfizer submits trial data on vaccine use in children aged 5 to 11 to Health Canada

a reply to: HawkEyi

That's just not how the medical health care profession operates.

If the vaccines are dangerous and killing people, where are your millions dead down to heart complications or what not?

Must be some size of carpet "they" are sweeping all those dead bodies under eh?

a reply to: andy06shake

Since I'm in my 40s and in that gray area where the risks of serious side effects are about equal, I got mine.

But truthfully, I got mine more for the idea that I'd get my regular life back than I got it out of fear of disease. When it became amply obvious that simply having people make their choice wasn't enough and they were going for 100% dictatorial compliance, they lost me. They can kiss my @ss on anymore compliance. Anything they want me to do that badly is something I give serious side-eye to unless I can clearly see the obvious need.

With COVID, it just doesn't exist.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Salander

Ive had COVID 19 Salander, it's very real.

i haven't, therefore it's not real i guess.

originally posted by: andy06shake people keep on firing out nonsensical doom porn

yes. the msm fire it out daily, about a harmless flu bug. and some idiots believe it all. PATHETIC.

a reply to: ketsuko

Following that logic through would seem to imply you got vaccinated against something that you dont think exists.

Seems to me you hedged your bet same as myself ketsuko.

And don't think they should force anyone to be vaccinated that chooses not to be.

The virus exists all the same, ive had it, and it was nasty, i seen other people really poorly requiring hospitalisation, and old people that have caught the disease and died.

End of the day the vaccines whilst controversial to some are not killing millions of people ketsuko and if they were it would be noticed in spades and rather hard to cover up or even deal with the number of dead bodies.

a reply to: RoScoLaz5

So is AIDS also not real because you haven't had that?

What about Ebola, is that not a thing because you have not had that nether?

There is no question as to the existence of COVID 19.

a reply to: RoScoLaz5

But its not a harmless flu bug.

Wonder if that poor wee 15 year old girls family think she died of harmless flu?

My guess is that's a negative.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk...

And since she was not vaccinated it certainly was not one of those that killed her.

COVID 19 on the other hand does indeed seem be responsible for her demise.

a reply to: andy06shake

Still standing just fine, me and 70+ million other people here in the UK

quick check of UK population.

UK Population 2021
United Kingdom (U.K.) has a population of 67.43 million in 2020

So if 70 million jabbed the UK must be free of infection and a society that is completely free from cases.

Seems rather strange the number of cases is in the middle of 1st dose and 2nd dose administrated a day
30,439 Daily number of people tested positive reported on 3 October 2021

So how long before the whole of the UK gets the full dna version of the virus?
Been over 500 days and the total infected in the UK officially is only 7,900,680.
So appears it will be a slow 5,000 is days before the vaccines become fully effective.
What is that 54 more booster shots? If you need a refresh every 90 days.

a reply to: andy06shake

It's not that I don't think it exists; it's that I don't think it's a serious illness for most healthy people until they get into their older years and even then, the odds are that if an elderly person is otherwise healthy, they should still have a pretty good chance of surviving it much like they do with most other seasonal respiratory viruses.

The data shows that most who die do so with two or more complicating conditions at work, and you can count age in there. It is very rare that the disease kills all by itself - 6% of cases at one point.

I didn't "hedge my bets" anymore than I do on the years when I choose to get a flu shot because I know the odds of a flu shot working. On the years when I decide to get the flu shot, it's because I have something else going on that I don't want the flu to complicate in some way or other. One year, I was having serious shoulder surgery and did not want to be stuck coughing with lots of shoulder pain. I wouldn't say I got the flu shot out of fear of the illness so much as a desire to reduce my odds of an annoying side effect of getting the illness - coughing.

In this case, I got the shot because I wanted the effing mask off my face (i.e. normal life). Being both mildly asthmatic and claustrophobic, the two conditions work together to make things miserable for me anytime I end up with something drawn tightly across my face. My brain interprets any resistance to breathing as asthma whether it is or isn't (most times it's not), and when the mask is drawn tightly to my face by hard breathing, you add in the smothering panic response of claustrophobia.

If I haven't "adapted" to it by now, I don't think it's going to happen, and where I end up working out vigorously five times a week, I run into complications of having to mask quite often.

I WANTED IT GONE.

But ... it quickly become apparent that simply getting vaccinated was not going to let that happen, so now they can bite me.

a reply to: puzzled2

Your right, i meant 70% of 67.43 million, my bad there.

So how come 70% of the entire UK is now fully vaccinated are not dead or dying if the vaccines are so deadly?

What about the first people who were vaccinated like Lyn Wheeler or Margaret Keenan, who are 81/91 years old, are they dead yet down to vaccine or COVID 19?

Is Biden dead yet?

He has had his booster and doing just fine.

a reply to: ketsuko

Serious enough to kill that little healthy unvaccinated 15 year old girl ketsuko.

I want it gone as well if that's any consolation.

Have they still got you masked up over there?

We still wear them here but only in confined spaces like the tube, train or public transport.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Nobody actually has to get any of those vaccines. They may be required to attend school in some places but there are always medical exemptions and in some states religious exemptions to vaccines and nobody is threatening jobs over getting them. I know a lot of people who have not gotten vaccines prior to this and will not get this vaccine either.

originally posted by: HawkEyi
dont worry lets all just trust Pfizer.... They are such a good company..

Do you drive?, if so, what brand of car do you drive? I bet they have had recalls, lawsuits too I bet, probably did some shady stuff..I don't even need to know the manufacture.

Not arguing for Pfizer, but sure as the sky is blue, you own and use a product, sold by a company that is, or has been shady, and caused death. Use any petroleum products in your daily life?..lol

Again, not about Pfizer, but business in general.

Having said all that I would be hesitant to vax my child at this point, I don't have any, but thats how I feel..for now.

a reply to: puzzled2

Good enough for me and the greater part of the population of the UK.

Certainly better than huffing Hydrogen Peroxide or taking horse medicine as any sort of cure.

The wee soul did get a serious reaction to a viral infection, its called COVID 19, and it killed a perfectly health unvaccinated 15 year old girl.

a reply to: andy06shake

Yes, and the flu can kill the occasional otherwise healthy person too. But we don't shut down society and turn people into lepers if they choose not to get vaccinated for it.

a reply to: ketsuko

We had never had a lockdown over the flu which has killed more than this virus ever would.

a reply to: ketsuko

Trying to get it opened back up now are we not?

As to turning people into lepers I'm not seeing that.

The vaccines are a choice, here anyway.

a reply to: andy06shake

I am amused how you are quick to deflect, defend Big Pharma.

If the vaccines are dangerous and killing people, where are your millions dead down to heart complications or what not?

You do know that a majority of side effects, advrse reactions arent being report right? or are you just going to deflect as well? or the fact that your Sliver Bullet vax is also causing women's heavy periods after their second dose after their second dose of covid vaccination?

I dont remember women complaining about the flu vaxs/shots causing them to have heavy period issues... Or the fact that many of those who have adverse reactions are being ignored by their own govt and not reported?

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: ketsuko

We had never had a lockdown over the flu which has killed more than this virus ever would.

They arguably should have taken measures during the Spanish Flu, but they had a war to fight and fresh bodies needed to be shipped to the front, so they did the stupidest thing ever and the disease was basically spread wherever young, healthy troops were shipped.

You want a horror story? Go study the Spanish Flu. That's the kind of thing that demands unusual public health response. This? Not as much.