These causes of death ruled out in deaths of family of 3, pet dog found in national forest

originally posted by: graysquirrel
a reply to: JAGStorm

Good luck getting their dog to eat a plant. The toxin would have to be in the air or water. Something that both dog and humans would consume at nearly the same time.

While temperatures were high in the area the family were hiking (37°C / 98.6°F) at their highs, dehydration seemed unlikely, with the dog dying and the Camelback still containing water.

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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Mercy sakes! That's enough for me as well.

I think they all died due to climate change. Yea, that's it.



Kidding.

Suffocation sounds like a reasonable theory.

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Wonder if this is incising 411 is as a cluster area?

Are those pictures recent?

If so, that is classic lightning strike damage. Tops of trees burnt, bottoms left intact.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
a reply to: SeaWorthy

I tend to avoid locations so named with 'Devil' after watching many David Paulides videos given the wacko world has become ever so more bizarre. Dunno if it means anything yet, but I noted he was a software engineer for Google.

I agree %100. We had a local wooded area growing up in the 90s, there was a specific tree called the "devil tree". It had demonic writing carved in it. The story goes a local police officer in the late 70s early 80s was abducting, torturing, killing children. I have personally gone out there with friends as a teenager and it was so creepy. We ended up finding the slab to his house and the devil tree itself. We all felt "watched" the entire time we were out there. Later on the city ended up cutting all the carvings out of the tree and I think I remember reading they eventually cut the whole tree down, they redid the area and turned it into a park with a boat ramp and dock. I could never imagine actually going to camp out in any area with "devil" attached to it's name. It was creepy enough during the daytime. I'm pretty sure the dyatlov pass incident took place by a mountain with "devil" in it's name. Way too many go missing, die and have unexplained things happen in these places. No thank you.

My guess is that they found out the two adults had recently gotten the COVID jab, which combined with the extreme heat and the physical exertion is what killed them. Once the adults were disabled via heatstroke, the dog and baby were doomed. They are now advising recent jab victims to avoid physical activity, after a number of adverse events, including sudden death. Of course they can't admit the vaccine is what led to the family being wiped out, so they are scrambling for alternate explanations.

originally posted by: starviego
My guess is that they found out the two adults had recently gotten the COVID jab, which combined with the extreme heat and the physical exertion is what killed them. Once the adults were disabled via heatstroke, the dog and baby were doomed. They are now advising recent jab victims to avoid physical activity, after a number of adverse events, including sudden death. Of course they can't admit the vaccine is what led to the family being wiped out, so they are scrambling for alternate explanations.

For the parents and baby that would make sense, but not the dog.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Are those pictures recent?

If so, that is classic lightning strike damage. Tops of trees burnt, bottoms left intact.

They say there was a forest fire in the last years and that was why it is burnt.

I can almost guarantee that David paulides (who I love) is going to do some hardcore investigation on this. Always sad when it happens to adults but who can be cruel enough to harm a 1yr old?

a reply to: JAGStorm
Yah that's very bizarre. You'd speculate a loyal dog would stick around next to the baby if the parents were dead, but at some point hunger will always make even the most loyal dog wander.

From the available info I reckon it’s down one of a couple of scenarios.

Poisoning through a suicide pact, murder suicide or accidental poisoning through the river water. Don’t things like arsenic etc sometimes leach into waterways.

Or

Catastrophic gaseous release co2 or methane.

theres a place near me called devils dyke. I always find it weird that google maps will show the road before and after but when it gets to devils dyke its black

Hum he was a Snapchat engineer.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Are those pictures recent?

If so, that is classic lightning strike damage. Tops of trees burnt, bottoms left intact.

Only about 10% of people who are struck by lightning are killed, leaving 90% with various degrees of disability. More recently, in the last 10 years (2009-2018), the U.S. has averaged 27 lightning fatalities.

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One poster checked and no storms

September 4, 2021 at 11:05 pm
Tox reports STILL pending
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Weird:
So the dad was found sitting upright, the baby and dog not far from him, and the mom a little ways up the hill.


Really makes you wonder how fast whatever happened to them, happened.

originally posted by: SickSalvation84
I can almost guarantee that David paulides (who I love) is going to do some hardcore investigation on this. Always sad when it happens to adults but who can be cruel enough to harm a 1yr old?

David Paulides doesn't do hardcore investigations. He's known to leave information out to make missing person cases fit into his books. A hardcore investigator would find new information to help solve cases, David doesn't do that, he just exploits cases to sell books.

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a reply to: visitedbythem

maybe your right. I think they well might know what the cause of death is by now but it is not in the public interest to know.

a reply to: SeaWorthy



That is definitely strange and Missing 411 material.

God Bless the two officers who slept overnight there to make sure the crime scene wasn’t disturbed til the bodies could be airlifted out of there. That’s one scary detail!

The Mariposa County Sheriff’s Office will hold a news conference tomorrow, Thursday, at 2:00 pm. to issue a final investigative update on the case. So we'll know by tomorrow.

originally posted by: starviego
The Mariposa County Sheriff’s Office will hold a news conference tomorrow, Thursday, at 2:00 pm. to issue a final investigative update on the case. So we'll know by tomorrow.

Thank you it has been hard keeping updated.