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originally posted by: Breakthestreak
The vaccinated : “I’m scared”
Those who don’t rely 100% on media and government to tell them how to live: “meh, my life hasn’t changed a bit”
originally posted by: nonspecific
I know your a big fan of natural immunity so you'll know that with that level of vaccination alongside the known cases and all the ones unreported we should be in a really good position to be able to deal with the pandemic with the minimum of issue.
a reply to: network dude
originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: Phage
No its not true with natural immunity. Natural immunity still remains very high months later while the shots weaken. They just quit broadcasting that fact to support the push of vaccines due tot he billions of tax payer dollars spent on it... which were only ment to slow the spread.. Those people will indeed get covid eventually. Just depends on when.
Unfortunately natural immunity does wear off like the vaccine, it's how the immune system works in this case. I know someone with no shots who has had it twice. They were very ill both times.
originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm not sure now o think about it.
I'd always assumed lapsed imunity was down to viral mutation more than anything else.
That's why we've never beaten the flu isn't it, it's constantly evolving and evading whereas things like mumps and chicken pox are more stagnant on their ability to mutate and remain effective?
I'd like to find out though.
a reply to: butcherguy
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust
Is this not true as well with "natural" immunity?
Based on how a Covid-19 vaccine's protection begins declining almost immediately, what concerns you the most?
They will?
The CDC will soon develop "Vaccination expiration date" guidance.
In any case, how concerned am I? I just posted this in another thread.
I am fully vaccinated. I avoid large groups of people and am masked indoors when I may encounter others who are not in a similar "bubble." Last week a person in my office tested positive. On Friday, when I found out, I left the office to be tested. Informed pertinent people that I was isolating pending results. Result is negative. I will return to the office on Monday but plan to be retested on Tuesday even though I still show no symptoms.
For the future? I was fully vaccinated in April. I will wait until December to decide what happens next.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust
I am fully vaccinated. I avoid large groups of people
and am masked indoors when I may encounter others who are not in a similar "bubble."
Last week a person in my office tested positive. On Friday, when I found out, I left the office to be tested. Informed pertinent people that I was isolating pending results. Result is negative. I will return to the office on Monday but plan to be retested on Tuesday even though I still show no symptoms.
originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
It feels great not having to be scared of covid and knowing I am protected against the worse of it.
It must be horrible living your life being scared of a vaccine, I feel for those people.
originally posted by: carewemust
You Are Covid-19 Vaccinated - What Concerns You The Most as You Gradually Become Un-Vaccinated?
Best regards,
CareWeMust
originally posted by: carewemust
Monday, September 13, 2021
Greetings ATS Family!
This Opening Post is meant primarily for those of you who have already been vaccinated against the Covid-19 disease. But the background information may be of interest to everyone.
Background:
By following volunteers who participated in the the mid-2020 Covid-19 vaccine trials, scientists learned that the vaccines begin the process of "wearing off" very quickly.
Large studies are now confirming this decline in vaccine "efficacy", as it's officially called..
Source: www.nature.com...
Massive UK study of COVID-19 cases shows that people who are jabbed have good immunity at first, but quickly become more vulnerable to the fast-spreading Delta variant.
The Pfizer–BioNTech and Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines are effective against the highly infectious Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 — but their protection drops away over time.
The results, published in a preprint on August 19th, suggest that both vaccines are effective against Delta after two doses.
But the protection they offer gradually wanes over time.
The vaccines made by Pfizer and BioNTech are 92% effective at keeping people from developing a high viral load — a high concentration of the virus in their test samples — 14 days after the second dose.
But the vaccine effectiveness fell to 90% after 30 days, 85% after 60 days, and 78% after 90 days.
After 7 months, the PFIZER Vaccine is down to 42% Protection Effectiveness.
Source - Page 19 at: www.cdc.gov...
Your Input/Feedback:
Based on how a Covid-19 vaccine's protection begins declining almost immediately, what concerns you the most?
1.) Becoming increasingly vulnerable to infection by the Covid-19 disease as the weeks pass?
2.) Losing your "Fully Vaccinated" status at some point during the decline in effectiveness? (The CDC will soon develop "Vaccination expiration date" guidance.)
3.) You weren't told about this decrease in efficacy when deciding whether or not to be injected with the experimental vaccine?
4.) Something Else?
5.) Not Concerned at all. Will get periodic "booster" shots before becoming officially labeled as "un-vaccinated".
Note: An average of 20% to 25% of all Covid-19 inpatients are categorized as "Fully Vaccinated". It's likely, most of them were vaccinated early this year. As time progresses, the percentage of "fully vaccinated" Covid-19 inpatients will increase, as more individuals vaccines "wear off".
Best regards,
CareWeMust