You Are Covid-19 Vaccinated - What Concerns You The Most as You Gradually Become Un-Vaccinated?.

Monday, September 13, 2021

Greetings ATS Family!

This Opening Post is meant primarily for those of you who have already been vaccinated against the Covid-19 disease. But the background information may be of interest to everyone.

Background:

By following volunteers who participated in the the mid-2020 Covid-19 vaccine trials, scientists learned that the vaccines begin the process of "wearing off" very quickly.

Large studies are now confirming this decline in vaccine "efficacy", as it's officially called..

Massive UK study of COVID-19 cases shows that people who are jabbed have good immunity at first, but quickly become more vulnerable to the fast-spreading Delta variant.

The Pfizer–BioNTech and Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines are effective against the highly infectious Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 — but their protection drops away over time.

The results, published in a preprint on August 19th, suggest that both vaccines are effective against Delta after two doses.

But the protection they offer gradually wanes over time.

The vaccines made by Pfizer and BioNTech are 92% effective at keeping people from developing a high viral load — a high concentration of the virus in their test samples — 14 days after the second dose.

But the vaccine effectiveness fell to 90% after 30 days, 85% after 60 days, and 78% after 90 days.

Source: www.nature.com...


After 7 months, the PFIZER Vaccine is down to 42% Protection Effectiveness.

Source - Page 19 at: www.cdc.gov...


Your Input/Feedback:

Based on how a Covid-19 vaccine's protection begins declining almost immediately, what concerns you the most?

1.) Becoming increasingly vulnerable to infection by the Covid-19 disease as the weeks pass?

2.) Losing your "Fully Vaccinated" status at some point during the decline in effectiveness? (The CDC will soon develop "Vaccination expiration date" guidance.)

3.) You weren't told about this decrease in efficacy when deciding whether or not to be injected with the experimental vaccine?

4.) Something Else?

5.) Not Concerned at all. Will get periodic "booster" shots before becoming officially labeled as "un-vaccinated".

Note: An average of 20% to 25% of all Covid-19 inpatients are categorized as "Fully Vaccinated". It's likely, most of them were vaccinated early this year. As time progresses, the percentage of "fully vaccinated" Covid-19 inpatients will increase, as more individuals vaccines "wear off".

Best regards,

CareWeMust

a reply to: carewemust

Let alone the adverse warnings for youth 12/15, under 12/15 in UK and polticans ignored the experts warnings for the side effects.

5.) Not Concerned at all. Will get periodic "booster" shots before becoming officially labeled as "un-vaccinated".

Some are fine with that but for how long?

a reply to: carewemust

Based on how a Covid-19 vaccine's protection begins declining almost immediately, what concerns you the most?

Is this not true as well with "natural" immunity?

The CDC will soon develop "Vaccination expiration date" guidance.

They will?

In any case, how concerned am I? I just posted this in another thread.

I am fully vaccinated. I avoid large groups of people and am masked indoors when I may encounter others who are not in a similar "bubble." Last week a person in my office tested positive. On Friday, when I found out, I left the office to be tested. Informed pertinent people that I was isolating pending results. Result is negative. I will return to the office on Monday but plan to be retested on Tuesday even though I still show no symptoms.

For the future? I was fully vaccinated in April. I will wait until December to decide what happens next.

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: carewemust

Let alone the adverse warnings for youth 12/15, under 12/15 in UK and polticans ignored the experts warnings for the side effects.

5.) Not Concerned at all. Will get periodic "booster" shots before becoming officially labeled as "un-vaccinated".

Some are fine with that but for how long?

You can tell by the increasing prevalence of mainstream media articles that Americans are being conditioned to expect, and even want to get booster shots. Those who are already vaccinated anyway.

Those who are not vaccinated will likely remain that way, unless something significant happens that causes them to change their mind.

a reply to: carewemust

Number #5 for me.

Due to my asthma condition my physician recommended vaccination and I will continue to do so along with all other precautions.

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes, 8 months for me, in a week my 1st shot expires. Im leaving the US first week of oct. My second shot expires on the 13 of oct. I will still be in Ireland. Im concerned I wont be able to leave the US ,or wont be able to return without the booster, which I dont really want, unless it is more attenuated with Delta, or even at that. We have learned more about the risks now.
5. no

I got the double shots a few months back, mostly because between my age and other conditions I have, the percentages added up to the shots being seemingly viable for me.

Shortly after, news came out of having to get yet another dose some time down the line. As well as even later, news of the vaccinated STILL getting sick.

This strikes me as the vaccine isn't effective at all, and I just wasted my own, along with the people who provided the shots time as well as taxpayers money getting them.

I'm definitely not "gung ho" about getting another round. I'll probably resist it as long as possible.

It's odd to me that the flu shots everyone religiously gets every year are supposedly different every year, because the flu virus is different every year. Now we need two shots in about a month as well as possibly boosters... for one single virus.

Something is off.

So:

1 - Yes
2 - Yes
3 - Yes
4 - Yes
5 - No

a reply to: Phage

You must be in a location where Covid-19 infections are rare...and big news when one occurs.

a reply to: carewemust

I'm not worried in the slightest, immunity won't drop to zero and ill just book in for a booster shot like I do with the flu.

Seriously, you doom porn mongers worry too much.

Its no wonder fertility rates are dropping, your stress levels must be through the roof.

originally posted by: Bunch
a reply to: carewemust

Number #5 for me.

Due to my asthma condition my physician recommended vaccination and I will continue to do so along with all other precautions.

That sounds like good advice, since Covid-19 is hard on the lungs.

Thanks for the feedback.

a reply to: carewemust

You must be in a location where Covid-19 infections are rare...and big news when one occurs.

You know where I live.
Look it up.

a reply to: Phage

I am fully vaccinated. I avoid large groups of people and am masked indoors when I may encounter others who are not in a similar "bubble." Last week a person in my office tested positive. On Friday, when I found out, I left the office to be tested. Informed pertinent people that I was isolating pending results. Result is negative. I will return to the office on Monday but plan to be retested on Tuesday even though I still show no symptoms.

That's pretty sad cuz. Sound like you're going to live the rest of your life in fear with your tail between your legs.

a reply to: myselfaswell

Not afraid. It's called risk management. You might note that my concern is not so much for myself as others though.

I grew up in, on, and around the ocean. I'm not afraid of the ocean but I don't turn my back to it either. I respect it.

I fly a hang glider for fun.

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted


1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes, 8 months for me, in a week my 1st shot expires. Im leaving the US first week of oct. My second shot expires on the 13 of oct. I will still be in Ireland. Im concerned I wont be able to leave the US ,or wont be able to return without the booster, which I dont really want, unless it is more attenuated with Delta, or even at that. We have learned more about the risks now.
5. no

The decreasing number of hospitalizations should lead to a decrease in deaths, and a reduction in the overall alert level. Hopefully in time for your trip to Ireland. Lots of good progress can be made between now and your departure for Ireland in 3 weeks!

The vaccinated : “I’m scared”

Those who don’t rely 100% on media and government to tell them how to live: “meh, my life hasn’t changed a bit”

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

You must be in a location where Covid-19 infections are rare...and big news when one occurs.

You know where I live.
Look it up.

Which Island? I was on Oahu in July. The media and governor were freaking out over 19 infections in a single day, but none of the citizens or tourists were.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
The vaccinated : “I’m scared”

Those who don’t rely 100% on media and government to tell them how to live: “meh, my life hasn’t changed a bit”

IMO, 80% of those who are vaccinated, did so due to "pressure" of some kind. Either from friends, or due to society pressure, or due to their work environment.

i don't think they'll be too eager to get on the booster regiment. Particularly if it stops being free.

a reply to: carewemust

The media and governor were freaking out over 19 infections in a single day

You are...let's just say, mistaken. And it is now September.

a reply to: carewemust

They are relatively clear there now, US is actually having a rougher time right now. Hopefully by the time Im back it will be declining here more. Thank you for your well wishes! Im excited to go, the trip was planned, then cancelled last year due to lockdowns.

a reply to: Phage

Is this not true as well with "natural" immunity?

Is it?

Of course of all people you would have a link to back up this assertion.

Oh wait, you don't.