Is China behind the Taliban comeback?

As we all know, Afghanistan is a very mineraly rich country and has a huge amount of untapped lithium in its soil. Lithium is, of course, going to be an ever more vital resource with the way the world is going.

I was of the opinion that some sort of deal had been made between the US and the Taliban, but I now think I was wrong.

The arrest in Kabul on Dec. 10 of an alleged Chinese espionage ring has prompted Afghanistan to recalibrate its relationship with China, its resource-hungry giant neighbor to the east. Afghan government officials said that the country has terminated oil and gas contracts with China and is seeking to renegotiate the terms of a massive mining concession that has been nearly dormant since it was inked by China more than a decade ago. 
The Afghan officials said they busted an alleged Chinese espionage ring operating in Kabul to hunt down Uighur Muslims with the help of the Haqqani network, a terrorist outfit linked to the Taliban.

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Here we have a Chinese spy ring arrested by the Afghan government in December, and they were linked to Taliban affiliated groups in country.

now, China seems to be making moves to build relations with the Taliban, keep in mind this source is dated from before they had taken over completely as they have now.

It does appear that China will be swooping in to gain as much from this situation as possible.

a reply to: sg1642

It certainly doesn't look good when China, Russia, Pakistan and Turkey come out as the first countries to publicly state that they are willing to accept the Taliban as the official government in Afghanistan.

a reply to: sg1642

Well, China was one of the first country's to announce they could recognize the Taliban as the Afghani Government.

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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: sg1642

It certainly doesn't look good when China, Russia, Pakistan and Turkey come out as the first countries to publicly state that they are willing to accept the Taliban as the official government in Afghanistan.

To expand on this further, I found this article from September of last year talking about a possible decade old plan for nuclear Pakistan to align with China, Russia, Turkey and Iran to make them a stronger power in the region to counter Saudi Arabia...

www.dispatchnewsdesk.com... i/

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It does appear the US walked out and left it to them

I do not know if China is behind the terrorist stuff or not; what I do know is that the Terrorists have taken over a country, are now literally in their offices; their President has fled and now Terrorists groups have a country to gather in and make their plans...soon they will be together in strength and power to plan their next moves.

In a list of anybody who is "behind the Taliban comeback," I'd put Slow Joe Beijing Biden first.

a reply to: sg1642
China would also be interested in a land-route towards influence in the Middle East, so it would make perfect strategic sense. Chinese-Pakistan friendship is as old as Nixon's time. Are they not friendly with Iran?

a reply to: DISRAELI

China tries to hide their direct relationship with Iran by using North Korea as their puppet.

Both China and Iran will temporarily befriend anyone who suits their immediate needs, but playing both sides of the fence will ultimately backfire for them, just like their fake relationship with the U.S.

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Joe is doing a great job for his Chinese overlords. Our country is now controlled by the CCP .

a reply to: DISRAELI

A land route to Israel, hmmm

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: sg1642

It does appear the US walked out and left it to them

Yeah, just two more years and...
Four more?
Ten?
Twenty?

The results would be the same .

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I bet you Iran is and China is best buddies with them right now

"Afghanistan....where empires go to die"

If it's true China is making overtures to the Taliban, who I'm sure are quite aware of the Chinese stance on the Uighurs, then I wouldn't necessarily consider that a coup for the Chinese. We'll see if the relationship actually blooms; neither side is known for negotiating and acting diplomatically in good faith.

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China is using them temporarily..

My thoughts are China wants India.
China is in it for the long game. It is like a game of chess.
The Taliban is useful but eventually will be expendable.
As mentioned before China isn’t fond of the Muslim ideology.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: sg1642

I bet you Iran is

and China is best buddies with them right now

No doubt that Iran would team with anyone to get America out of Afghanistan, but they still have to worry about radical Sunni Muslims trying to get rid of their Shiite Muslim way of life in the region.

It's just a matter of time before China and Russia find themselves tied up in the middle of fighting regional Islamic disputes to accomplish their ultimate goals for the region, not too different from us or anyone else who has an interest there. Let them waste their time and money there for awhile.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: DISRAELI

A land route to Israel, hmmm

You got it as well , huh ?

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: sg1642

It does appear the US walked out and left it to them

Biden has a long history of profiting from deals with China. Withdrawing the US and basically handing them the country could have pulled Joe and Hunter Crack Pipe Biden quite the windfall.

This is just another huge example of exactly why there needed to be a pullout, and a long time ago to

The Taliban just want to govern Afghanistan like they have done forever, and under extreme sharia laws, not under western imposed democratic Islam that is the very essence of the Taliban cause and it always will be regardless of the USA or China

The fact is you cant force democracy down the barrel of a gun to arguably the most extreme Islamic country in the world, the Chinese were able to cosy up to Pakistan at the expense of Pakistan/India disputes... anfd they were able to do it at the expense of US/ISAF & Taliban disputes, but that no longer exists and so Afghanistan/Taliban objectives pivot back to exporting jihad

And were already seeing that strategic pivot again
[www.forbes.com... orld/]LINK[/url]

5 Years ago
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About 10,000 troops from China and Russia are carrying out joint military exercises in northwestern China to test some of the People’s Liberation Army’s newest weapons and signal unity on common security concerns such as Afghanistan

And lets also Note, while in Afghanistan In September 2004, the East Turkestan Government-in-Exile was established in Washington, D.C.
East Turkmenistan reject the name Xinjiang, (meaning "New Frontier" in Chinese) The UN Security Council Al-Qaida Sanctions Committee has listed ETIM (East Turkestan Islamic Movement) as a terrorist organization since 2002, though the United States removed it from its list of Terrorist Organizations in 2020

IF THAT ISN'T TELLING AT ALL ????

So of course china, interfered in Afghanistan AND NOW the US is going to interfere in East Turkestan, that has been known since literally day one along with Iran and Pakistan which basically just had grips of the US being in their region, but now they're out... guess they all have to revise the CCP threat... its just geopolitical strategic maneuvering, while the Taliban were fighting ISAF... the Chinese were carrying out Islamic genocide, now i dont know but im willing to place a bet i can dig lots of information regarding ISAF & Taliban meetings around this time, further showing a cooperation and pivot for ISAF withdrawals and a Taliban refocus

Afghan conflict: US and Taliban sign deal to end 18-year war
Published29 February 2020

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the dynamics and geopolitics change as soon as the US/ISAF forces pull out, we arguably spent too long in Afghanistan and the war on terror and we should have been focusing on China at least 20 years ago tbh

its almost certain the US/NATO pivot to China and Chinese militarization in the south china sea and threats and nuke build ups caused the rapid pull out and retooling of the military, i think that's the only mistake here is the corporate elites unwillingness to close down their sweat shops and smell the coffee that the CCP is every bit as extremist and ideological as the Taliban but the threat was ignored because money talks and the CCP were very successful in coercing the idiot leftists that they were benevolent

i see the Taliban focusing on rebuilding government, and a pivot towards military operations in Xinjiang, simply because their ideology is above everything and so is the CCPs so its a natural clash IMO, the destabilization again of this centralized Eurasian region creates a huge plethora of problems for the belt & road initiative

a reply to: Deetermined

For sure Iran gonna have big issues with the Sunnies over there Deetermined it's gonna be a fee for all with the Yanks pulling out expect Saudi plus Pakistan already in there too, Russia has a chance to reassert itself in its FSU Stan's big time now the threat of Taliban pushes them again towards Moscow, then India's gonna want to keep Pakistan in check and that means Afghan too. When it come to China I honestly think they'll prefer to use a proxy like Iran to do its work as it's got too much to lose. China's doing incredibly well posy 1980, the people get wealthier, the country modernises fab industry / space / tech dev't, the standard of living is actually fantastic with nil or close to crime, a universal going forwardness to the future plus everything including the buses run on time and no litter. Why risk everything in a foreign adventure when you can use Iran or another proxy to do the risky work for you in exchange for a little Yuan and a new port / highway or two