Apple is about to start scanning iPhone users' devices for banned content

originally posted by: gb540
Privacy is noble.
Fighting child abuse is noble.

“We’ll be scanning your personal device to make sure you’re not carrying anything illegal” is NOT noble!!

Exactly. There's no nobility in being some Nazi. I've long tried to make the point that, unless somebody is a screaming liberal Nazi, they should be opting out of the likes of Fakebook and Twittle. It's the stuff of history's sociopathic monsters to stifle dissent and censor. It is against everything America stands for, and, if a person participates in what these dark companies are doing, they are, squarely, part of the problem: these evil monsters cannot grow and thrive, without customers. If you're paying them, with clicks or money, you're part of the evil. May as well just shut the hell up, if you don't like tyranny, because you're feeding the beast.

There's always some excuse to try and justify totalitarian evils. It's usually ginning up fear, but, also, the likes of this case, some ruse that we need a Gestapo beast, for the children. I would also like to point out that fishing expeditions, into a person's private life, without a warrant, is illegal, un-Constitutional, as all hell.

In any event, if people are going to stand for this and patronize all these monsters, that want to make you slaves, you know something? You deserve slavery, then, all one can say. You don't deserve any freedom, if you won't even give up some conveniences for a nation others died for, to preserve your freedom.

2 John 1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

With Apple built in China for the last few years, to at least not consider that the CCP has access to it all is a bit naive. ASIO has been in tight with the growth of the telecommunication network here in Australia. Most of it falls under national security so unless you are talking about billion dollar deals or assassinations of heads of state, not too much they can do with that data. With so much data going on, most of it is done by bots, unless you are on the radar.

Now that Apple has made this declaration that child abusers are on that radar, good. It is a pandemic worst than covid. As for the slippery slope this may entail in the future, is a parent that does not consent to getting their child vaccinated an abuser?

Facebook and twitter could of done so much here, but seams limited in there approach as treatment for covid are more of a threat to them. With Apple making this disclosure it does open up lawful remedies that would otherwise be blocked due to the legal framework around national security laws.

I know this big brother creep is scary, maybe it will work, maybe it will backfire as the CCP just takes out the competition on the child porn to capitalize the market and come up with BS excuses to further break up the family?

On face value I do agree with this decision by Apple, I expect it took some guts from those in the industry to make this call. As for where it goes, one step at a time.

originally posted by: kwakakev
On face value I do not disagree with this decision by Apple, I expect it took some guts from those in the industry to make this call. As for where it goes, one step at a time.

Then why don't you just do everybody a favor and go live in China. Perhaps roundup everybody like you, first, to tag along.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Justoneman
Privacy laws will prevail but they will still hack in and find some way to use it if they possibly can.

There are no privacy laws, you purchase the device with their user agreement and hit 'agree', that's how it works. No one is making you buy an Apple product.

I don't need them. They are violating my privacy rights and no amount of weasel fake laws that violate that will stand in the end.

originally posted by: Justoneman
They are violating my privacy rights and no amount of weasel fake laws that violate that will stand in the end.

When you click 'agree' you are giving up your privacy. What part isn't registering?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Justoneman
They are violating my privacy rights and no amount of weasel fake laws that violate that will stand in the end.

When you click 'agree' you are giving up your privacy. What part isn't registering?

I still have rights and this isn't over because they scammed us. You can try to make laws and apply rules that violate the COTUS but you won't win forever at playing that game or we are dead, done as a nation of laws. Time and again thru history controllers have tried to slide stuff in and it was eventually boiled down to the fact laws cannot violate the COTUS. Right now we have a rogue gov that will have to be voted out for good.

originally posted by: Justoneman
I still have rights and this isn't over because they scammed us. You can try to make laws...

There are no laws, you accept their user agreement when you purchase the device or you don't get it.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
When you click 'agree' you are giving up your privacy. What part isn't registering?

So, Apple, a damned company, with Communist foreign entanglements, at that, can put in the fine print you give up your rights and are now subject to warrantless searches? Can they put in the fine print you'll surrender your guns? You seem alright with Apple dispensing with the 4th Amendment, if you click on agree. Why not the 2nd Amendment? Dudes that say things like you are already fine with dispensing with the 1st Amendment by cancel culture and censorship, because some company decided your Constitutional rights are void, that you must either be a racist, a pervert or Communist to have a voice, or be removed from society.

I'm tired of all the damned excuses, from the likes of you, how private companies, that are public companies, by the way, can strip the nation of all our rights. You know something, what is it, that is huge, that doesn't register with YOU? Do you practice your goose step for Apple?

Matthew 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Justoneman
I still have rights and this isn't over because they scammed us. You can try to make laws...

There are no laws, you accept their user agreement when you purchase the device or you don't get it.

There are COTUS based or they don't stand. COTUS is THE basis for all actual law guidelines. Any actual law or legal policy for a business situation are based on COTUS first. Right now they are based on the Fascist corporations that own our Gov lock stock and barrel. Those days are very numbered now it surely seems.

Can I have a contract to make people slaves legally under our COTUS as we have it today?

NO

Can I come up with other examples of invalid business practices that would be subject to the COTUS?

YES


I think you are smart enough to get this and understand it better than many too. I expect you will come around to the truth on your own, and in your own time.

Blessings AM, I mean well.

a reply to: Scrutinizing



Great articulation of the facts. Thank you!

originally posted by: Justoneman
I still have rights and this isn't over because they scammed us. You can try to make laws and apply rules that violate the COTUS but you won't win forever at playing that game or we are dead, done as a nation of laws. Time and again thru history controllers have tried to slide stuff in and it was eventually boiled down to the fact laws cannot violate the COTUS. Right now we have a rogue gov that will have to be voted out for good.

Exactly. The Constitution IS the United States of America. Anybody in violation of the Constitution is an enemy of this nation and the people. It's very simple. You remove the Constitution, and the USA is just another land mass, being led by the wicked, which even deserves to be in the dustbin of history, with every other bestial, evil empire.

originally posted by: Justoneman
a reply to: Scrutinizing

Great articulation of the facts. Thank you!

No, thank you, and you are most welcome!

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Justoneman
They are violating my privacy rights and no amount of weasel fake laws that violate that will stand in the end.

When you click 'agree' you are giving up your privacy. What part isn't registering?

This is the crux of the matter. Once you click agree...

originally posted by: Scrutinizing
So, Apple, a damned company, with Communist foreign entanglements, at that, can put in the fine print you give up your rights and are now subject to warrantless searches?

I'm not sure why you're bringing up the Constitution because, except for some very limited instances, it only applies to what the government cannot do, and Apple, not being the government, and more importantly, by you clicking 'AGREE', gives them the permission to go through your data.

originally posted by: Justoneman
There are COTUS based or they don't stand.

When you click 'AGREE' and give Apple permission they have, wait for it, PERMISSION to go through your data.

This starting to make sense yet?

originally posted by: Klassified
This is the crux of the matter. Once you click agree...

I distinctly recall Trey and Matt lampooning people's inability to grasp this about a decade ago.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Klassified
This is the crux of the matter. Once you click agree...

I distinctly recall Trey and Matt lampooning people's inability to grasp this about a decade ago.

I have repeatedly tried to explain the concept of End User License Agreements and contracts to clients who ask. Most fail to grasp the concept of entering into a contract with another party when they tap agree.

originally posted by: Klassified
I have repeatedly tried to explain the concept of End User License Agreements and contracts to clients who ask. Most fail to grasp the concept of entering into a contract with another party when they tap agree.

I'm sure it doesn't help when people get Constitutional law confused with contract law.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Klassified
I have repeatedly tried to explain the concept of End User License Agreements and contracts to clients who ask. Most fail to grasp the concept of entering into a contract with another party when they tap agree.

I'm sure it doesn't help when people get Constitutional law confused with contract law.

Oddly enough, these same folks would be furious if the government stepped in and interfered with their right to enter into such an agreement with another party. Yet they want the government to step in after the fact and revoke that agreement when it suits their purpose. Can't have it both ways folks.

a reply to: Scrutinizing

Then why don't you just do everybody a favor and go live in China. Perhaps roundup everybody like you, first, to tag along.

If I am out there sharing those panda eyes or keeping the adrenchrome flowing, hope you do. If you to think that systemic child abuse in not a nation security issue, I disagree.