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They made you believe God is perfect...

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posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 07:28 AM
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a reply to: St0rD

Your whole theory of...

"is GOD imperfect?
and more relatable to us then we think?
& is GOD in a state of continued learning"
(Like us)

All falls apart, and makes no since with this one thought...

What & why would the creator who created (everything)...
Need to learn from his creation?

He created us in (his image)...
not the other way around.

Do you ask yourself the question...

"I wonder if GOD could create a rock so heavy,
that even he couldn't lift it"

???

You have to understand first.

That while the being of GOD himself is not human...
He was able to embody himself to become human,
as Jesus Christ... and also other people in history as well...

But only he could do that... We could not...

Which is why he said...
"I am in the world, but I am not of this world"

He became human so he could put himself in our shoes and see, feel & live from our perspective...

I believe the reason the book of Job was mentioned was to illustrate my point...

That the GOD who laid the foundations & laws of the universe!
The One who was there before the creation of time. The One who created time.
The master craftsman who formed & shaped the entire universe
The One who hand crafted each and every living being and knows every single strand of hair on your head
The alpha the omega
The beginning & the end
The great I AM

Doesn't need to learn a single thing at all,
from his creation.

We all need and learn from GOD
not the other way around.

There is not a single thing GOD needs from us nothing at all...

And the only thing he wants from us is our hearts
& for us to love one another...

Contrary to popular belief GOD actually is...
All knowing
All powerful
All perfect
All Good

So was his creation...
sin & evil is what has corrupt his perfect creation

Sin and evil is not the opposite of righteous & good like most believe

But rather Sin & evil is just a byproduct of man's freewill

Which freewill is just another loving Good perfect gift from GOD

GOD'S perfect love and Good & holy righteousness is always there that's why he is the almighty

Just like how the light always out shines the darkness...

GOD'S chosen people are the salt of the world.

Now don't get me wrong...
When I say GOD, I'm not talking about the
"Holy Bible" they are two different things...

You say this theory has actually made you closer to GOD... (I'm paraphrasing)

But take caution and be careful not to get on the wrong path with any false doctrines...

We as humans can tend to lean towards ideas & motives that seem more appealing to our nature and they can seem more logical or easier or take the blame off of us...
but just because something feels good or makes us happy
or because we think it's good doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do

Like someone else already pointed out
GOD said
"my ways are higher then your ways,
my thoughts are higher then your thoughts"

So just be sure your not wanting to believe this because you have unresolved issues or want to shift the blame off yourself or to try to make since of why the world is the way it is... or what have you...

Because remember
GOD is always the solution never the problem

Only you have a big problem
if you believe a perfect GOD isn't perfect



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: St0rD


The difference between God and his creation is probably the fact that he ultimately overcame the temptations of evil and learn to transform it in something positive.


Could you create whole biological 3D universes with living beings?

Could you come back from the dead?
or bring the dead back to life?

Could you love a complete stranger enough to give your life up for them?

Could you walk on water?

Could you manipulate matter?

Could you turn the other cheek?

(Ect.)

While your statement is true.
he has overcome this world and it's troubles...

There is alot more differences between GOD and his creation...

The Bible tells us to love the creator not the creation...

The sad part is you seem to think this is some kind of new idea...
There is a name for what you are talking about it's called...

"gnosticism"

All gnostic belief systems whether old or modern are all centered around the same concept...
And it's essentially that...

We are all GOD individually experiencing ones self simultaneously...

you mentioned the Ying yang which is the duality of light/dark & good/evil...(ect.)

light with a little dark and dark with a little light...

All that is one form or another of gnosticism



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 07:01 PM
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I don't think there is such a real entity, however, I give a little bit of weight to the creator of our reality being a demiurge (Saklas, Yaldabaoth) that just thinks he's God. The Gnostic Jesus pretty much said the true creator entity is essentially incomprehensible to the human mind and certainly not something you can pray to.

And if something is truly incomprehensible, then you have to wonder if it exists at all. Do you believe in ---------- ?



posted on Jul, 15 2021 @ 02:51 AM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift
I don't think there is such a real entity, however, I give a little bit of weight to the creator of our reality being a demiurge (Saklas, Yaldabaoth) that just thinks he's God. The Gnostic Jesus pretty much said the true creator entity is essentially incomprehensible to the human mind and certainly not something you can pray to.

And if something is truly incomprehensible, then you have to wonder if it exists at all. Do you believe in ---------- ?


You can pray to GOD...

But if you do not believe...
In him and his son Jesus Christ...
it won't work for you...

GOD BLESS!!!



posted on Jul, 15 2021 @ 03:33 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jul, 15 2021 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Kaiju666
Supposedly 'God' made man in his own image. Men/women/children make mistakes. Also, in the Old Testament, 'God' is quite angry and vindictive a bit. Therefore ...not seeing a perfect 'God'. Unless, being mistake prone is part of being 'perfect'.


Yet, how many people complained when God didn’t stop Hitler, Stalin, Isis the Taliban
You want no God but complain when He wipes out the Amalekites because of their evil

Not making any sense
Justice is perfection


You? Directing at me specifically or a general 'you'? Either way, me myself I surely don't complain what 'God' (if he exists) did or didn't do. I don't live my life thinking or relying on anyone or any 'God' to take care of things for me.



posted on Jul, 16 2021 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: DustyDust
You can pray to GOD...

But if you do not believe...
In him and his son Jesus Christ...
it won't work for you...

GOD BLESS!!!


What?

Even when I don't believe in God or His Son, God still blesses me with his presence even when I have no faith or hope.

God will still give his all to you even if you have no belief or faith, you don't need to pray for it.

To the Topic.

Isn't it possible that God doesn't know everything and he lets His children look and research (a trillion Galaxies and an near infinite number or planets in this Universe, and even more Universe's if you believe in a Multiverse) what he doesn't know so he can learn a little more?

It would seem a little pointless seeding life everywhere, being trillions of years old not learning anything new.
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posted on Jul, 17 2021 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: MagnoPho

originally posted by: DustyDust
You can pray to GOD...

But if you do not believe...
In him and his son Jesus Christ...
it won't work for you...

GOD BLESS!!!


What?

Even when I don't believe in God or His Son, God still blesses me with his presence even when I have no faith or hope.

God will still give his all to you even if you have no belief or faith, you don't need to pray for it.

To the Topic.

Isn't it possible that God doesn't know everything and he lets His children look and research (a trillion Galaxies and an near infinite number or planets in this Universe, and even more Universe's if you believe in a Multiverse) what he doesn't know so he can learn a little more?

It would seem a little pointless seeding life everywhere, being trillions of years old not learning anything new.



"my ways are higher then your ways,
my thoughts are higher then your thoughts"

Says the Lord...



posted on Jul, 20 2021 @ 08:31 PM
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posted on Jul, 20 2021 @ 08:47 PM
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I also told him the daily updates (4:20) were breaking my brain and I needed more frequent ones and now they are every 20 minutes.



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