Revealing Facts About Slavery - Thomas Sowell.

During the current climate of agenda based censorship (and promoted division) thought academic Thomas Sowell did a pretty comprehensive job in the vid below of exploring the history and horrors of slavery.

Excerpts from 'Intellectuals And Race' by Thomas Sowell

Thought the author also brought up some interesting points about the 'inclusiveness' of slavery and how the 'intelligentsia' completely subverted the teaching of the subject by 'highly selective flitering'.

Also some revealing facts being presented about the origins of the word 'slave' and recent historical examples from the Barbary coast and the Ottoman empire

The history of slavery across the centuries and in many countries around the world is a painful history to read - not only in terms of how slaves have been treated, but because of what that says about the whole human species - because slaves and enslavers alike have been of every race, religion and nationality.

If the history of slavery ought to teach us anything, it is that human beings cannot be trusted with unbridled power over other human beings - no matter what color or creed any of them are. The history of ancient despotism and modern totalitarianism practically shouts that same message from the blood-stained pages of history.

But that is not the message that is being taught in our schools and colleges, or dramatized on television and in the movies. The message pounded home again and again is that white people enslaved black people.

Just as Europeans enslaved Africans, North Africans enslaved Europeans; more Europeans than there were Africans enslaved in the United States and in the 13 colonies from which it was formed.

It is not just the history of slavery that gets distorted beyond recognition by the selective filtering of facts. Those who go back to mine history, in order to find everything they can to undermine American society or Western civilization, have very little interest in the Bataan death march, the atrocities of the Ottoman Empire or similar atrocities in other times and places.

Poisoning present by distorting slavery’s past

Also pretty disturbing to note that slavery is still extremely prevalent in the world today and according to National Geographic there are an estimated 27 million men, women, and children in the world who are enslaved'.

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Of all the tragic facts about the history of slavery, the most astonishing to an American today is that, although slavery was a worldwide institution for thousands of years, nowhere in the world was slavery a controversial issue prior to the 18th century. People of every race and color were enslaved – and enslaved others. White people were still being bought and sold as slaves in the Ottoman Empire, decades after American blacks were freed..

Incidentally, the September 2003 issue of National Geographic had an article about the millions of people still enslaved around the world right now. But where is the moral indignation about that?

"There are an estimated 27 million men, women, and children in the world who are enslaved — physically confined or restrained and forced to work, or controlled through violence, or in some way treated as property.

Therefore, there are more slaves today than were seized from Africa in four centuries of the trans-Atlantic slave trade [11 million total, and about 450,000, or about 4% of the total, who were brought to the United States]. The modern commerce in humans rivals illegal drug trafficking in its global reach—and in the destruction of lives".

There are more slaves today than were seized from Africa in four centuries

a reply to: karl 12
I'm glad you posted this. It is a topic I have thought about doing for a while, but hesitated because of the political climate right now, including here on ATS. Few people want to hear the truth of this. They aren't open to it and would rather stay ignorant. As an addition, this guy has several videos that broach the topic. Here is one of them...

a reply to: karl 12

All forms of slavery are evil.

Some religion's have it enshrined while others are against it, any culture is often shaped by the dominant religion of it's people.

Religious such as Islam for example both accept and even have religious laws for Slavery while Judaism gave slaves right's and forbade there abuse remembering that the Hebrews themselves had been enslaved.

Christianity is about setting free so is fundamentally ANTI slavery though it was deliberately misinterpreted and abused by those that could even in Britain the nation which finally stood up against Slavery under the influence of Christian reformists in the 18th and 19th century's (there has never been another nation in history that warred to free slaves in the entire world and actively policed the worlds seas to prevent the foul practice until under it's influence other nations finally bowed and made slavery illegal also).

Buddhism is also basically anti slavery in it's nature while Hinduism has slavery in the form of the caste system made almost unbreakable.

Then there is the other religion of the world, one not based on teachings but on Greed, selling someone or exploiting them for one's own gain has always been a depravity of humanity.


Hey Classified, good post, too many forget that millions of Europeans were also enslaved and kidnapped from there homes, not including the age of Serfdom which was an abominable period in history which would put the numbers even higher but just taking into account Islamic raids into Europe and Barbary pirate and west African slave raids into Europe, these white European slaves were subjected to everything the African slaves later were (by the European powers they have always though been enslaved by one another and by the Islamic nations whom believe literally that they are FOR slavery, the movie Ashanti - made in 1979 - was based on a true story albeit dramatized) and even after the period of European expansionism began for a time the Ottomans still raided Europe for slaves until the battle of Lepanto - and then still continued on a smaller scale mostly Mediterranean island raids and massacre and enslavement of Greek's until the very start of the 20th century.


There is reliable evidence and many accounts that it is still going on today among the Arab's, they even invited Pilipino woman offering them job's as cleaners only for many of them to then disappear and never be heard from again and for those that got home to return with story's of there passports having been taken, being beaten, raped and forced to work for nothing by the often oil rich family's of many of the Arabian states.

Debt makes slaves out of people. You sign the endenture and you become a slave of your wants most times. The best thing is to focus on your needs and treat yourself occasionally to your wants. People have got so spoiled they believe their wants are needs now, they are addicted to technology and have set their goal post so high they are strattled in debt. I know more low middle class people that have monthly payments almost as high as their income. Society has conditioned them to believe this is normal....society pushes slavery of everyone this way. Ask yourself, do you really need what you are buying? Ask yourself is that jewelry or fashion clothes your buying actually worth draining your food budget so you have to live on a crappy diet? Do you need to go out and eat at that expensive restaurant where the tip and tax is more than you could make the same meal at home...which is common.

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a reply to: Mark08
Lol, so does the open discussion bother you?
Just trying to get a feel for your "response"

a reply to: karl 12

I was watching a “Tracks” episode on YouTube called “Libya’s Forbidden Desert”.

There is a part of the show that covers the desert nomads that used to be slave traders. They were sitting in their tent jamming the blues on guitars.

Guess where the African American slaves got their blues music from? Yep, their old owners in Africa that sold them to the West!

So the blues isn’t slave music. It’s slave trader music!

I also recall hearing that the accepted view of slavery throughout history was brought to an end by the likes of the Quakers in the States and people like Wilberforce in England. “Wicked Christians”

I was pretending to be a democrat
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Hey Classified, good post, too many forget that millions of Europeans were also enslaved and kidnapped from there homes, not including the age of Serfdom which was an abominable period in history which would put the numbers even higher but just taking into account Islamic raids into Europe and Barbary pirate and west African slave raids into Europe, these white European slaves were subjected to everything the African slaves later were (by the European powers they have always though been enslaved by one another and by the Islamic nations whom believe literally that they are FOR slavery, the movie Ashanti - made in 1979 - was based on a true story albeit dramatized) and even after the period of European expansionism began for a time the Ottomans still raided Europe for slaves until the battle of Lepanto - and then still continued on a smaller scale mostly Mediterranean island raids and massacre and enslavement of Greek's until the very start of the 20th century.

Indeed, I am always surprised at how many people know nothing about the Barbary coast slave trade. We aren't students of history as we once were.

originally posted by: Mark08

I was pretending to be a democrat
a reply to: BlueJacket

Perfect, Im post surgery right now...so rather than responding ...thought I'd ask

Should call this thread 'Hi BLM - An Inconvenient Truth'

a reply to: Mark08

"The oldest written history of the Slavs can be shortly summarised--myriads of slave hunts and the enthralment of entire peoples. The Slav was the most prized of human goods. With increased strength outside his marshy land of origin, hardened to the utmost against all privation, industrious, content with little, good-humoured, and cheerful, he filled the slave markets of Europe, Asia, and Africa."
etymonline

Slavery is as old as humanity. Since records have been kept, humans have bought and sold other humans to do the jobs no one else wanted. As the quote above shows, certain races were prized for their qualities as slaves (Slavs). The Irish and Welsh were (are?) valued for their mining experience and as domestic servants. Mohawks were legendary iron-workers in the construction of Manhattan. Even today, Asians are pressed into service for meticulous and repetitive assembly work.

In August of 1619, a ship appeared on this horizon, near Point Comfort, a coastal port in the English colony of Virginia. It carried more than 20 enslaved Africans, who were sold to the colonists. No aspect of the country that would be formed here has been untouched by the years of slavery that followed. In the 400th anniversary of this fateful moment, it is finally time to tell our story truthfully.

The 1619 Project

The Barbary pirates were legendary slave traders along the north and west coasts of Africa. These people, known as the Berbers, Greek meaning 'barbarian', were Turkish and Arab Muslims who began trading slaves after the conquests of Libya, Algeria and Morocco in the 1500s.

It would be funny, were it not so tragic, that the social justice warriors who scream themselves red in the face about systemic racism and the injustice of black slavery are using a term that literally means "white slave."

The SJWs and various activist groups have no valid claim to slavery as their personal excuse to inflict terror, doxxing and pain on others. There is barely a race (family, lineage, tribe) on the planet that has not been enslaved at some point by another race, or even their own. Race is an affirmation of family, not a slur to weaponize in service of ideology. So, the next time someone calls you racist, thank them for acknowledging your family comes first.

Wikipedia has a pretty good article on slavery in medieval Europe.

WIKI LINK

The Irish as slaves is an interesting and controversial subject.

Slavery had been practiced in Ireland for centuries before a Welsh slave in the 5th century got away, spent some years in France and then returned to achieve a mass conversion among the Irish to become Saint Patrick. Brocca, another slave of the Irish, was the father of Saint Brigit. Dublin was a major slave market, especially after the Vikings came and renovated the town into an efficient port. It must be added, however, that slavery was a looser system in those days, and servitude, whether to Irishman, Roman, Norseman or Norman, did not necessarily mean servitude for life.

Historynet LINK

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

The concepts of 'race' were fabricated to justify the continuation of slavery. Before that it was simply which religion you followed, and before that it was if you were labeled a barbarian or not. There's always some 'reason' that needed to be invented to swoon over the people who were funding it.
The curse of Ham comes to mind. Also, you should be careful with that 1619 "project" it's full of fallacies and blatant history revisionism.

The US is the only nation to have a war to end slavery losing 600,000 lives and destroying all the wealth produced since the countries inception in the process. Oddly no one bothers to give credence or honor to the men who died in the fight to end slavery. Until some of these social justice warriors bother to add that to their historical memory I'm not going to give them a minutes worth of my time.

Most of that I knew, its a shame history has been pretty well pushed out of school or reduced to memorizing dates with no actual discussion about what happened to protect peoples feelings.
Very happy to see such an intelligent man comment in depth on this subject that any white person risks a career to cover... though I am sure they will bury him in a mud slide if its covered at all.
Sex-Fine
Abortion-no problem
History- oh god no people will be upset we cant hurt their feelings.

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Cool.
I actually felt the breeze move my hair as your mind closed!
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It was ether done by raiding an pillaging, criminal punishment to accepting a form of payment, or even security. Even most of the virtuous philosophers from Socrates, Plato where not against due to it being a workforce.

As with regards to Europe an Africa tricky because when it comes to European history, it is filled with revolts an class wars. Where as Africa is concerned especially with the media an liberal bias, there is hardly any sort of insurrection of sort against said status quos an litterally just bent over for the time.

I think what happened was that the slave traders of Africa ust simply got greedy, an allowed much of Europe to take over it willingly. And since Europeans are usually at each others throats, it became a resource race.

Most enslavers ether did so with force or coercion, to trading goods with them that would of been commodities to the Europeans.

As for race, an nationality, the lines are so diluted an blurred, that it not clear cut an dry. How many Irish are english, and english are Irish blooded?

a reply to: karl 12

A wild thought.

Is the current thrust of identifying slavery as a primarily 'black' experience, and the emphasis on looking backwards at historic artifacts perceived as relating to slavery actually a huge, orchistrated, misdirection to protect the current business of slavery?

As Sowell says

"There are an estimated 27 million men, women, and children in the world who are enslaved — physically confined or restrained and forced to work, or controlled through violence, or in some way treated as property.

Therefore, there are more slaves today than were seized from Africa in four centuries of the trans-Atlantic slave trade [11 million total, and about 450,000, or about 4% of the total, who were brought to the United States]. The modern commerce in humans rivals illegal drug trafficking in its global reach—and in the destruction of lives".

Seems to me there is a lot to be gained by some player/s from having us look the other way, and not look to closely at what is happening today.

a reply to: karl 12

A good indicator of when a country is 'over' slavery, is when they are 'over' it.