The real reason why Americans are so obsessed with gun rights.

It all makes perfect sense now.

I'd personally want too have access to an entire arsenal of weapons as well, if a simple stroll in the woods involved the possibility of being hunted down by a giant "kitty cat".

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

It all makes perfect sense now.

I'd personally want too have access to an entire arsenal of weapons as well, if a simple stroll in the woods involved the possibility of being hunted down by a giant "kitty cat".

The Second Amendment as written was put there in case our Government became tyrannical, in which case it was the duty of the citizens to overthrow it and install new representatives.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.

It has nothing to do about hunting or protecting yourself from wildlife.

Although here is one from my neck of the woods...



You understand absolutely nothing about our rights as American citizens.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Yeah bugger that.

Although as I'm sure you've heard there is a high likelihood they also inhabit parts of our bush.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa
Yeah, he is lucky it was a juvenile...but yes, that is ONEreason we carry out here in the mountains of Oregon.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

It all makes perfect sense now.

I'd personally want too have access to an entire arsenal of weapons as well, if a simple stroll in the woods involved the possibility of being hunted down by a giant "kitty cat".

The Second Amendment as written was put there in case our Government became tyrannical, in which case it was the duty of the citizens to overthrow it and install new representatives.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.

It has nothing to do about hunting or protecting yourself from wildlife.

Although here is one from my neck of the woods...

You understand absolutely nothing about our rights as American citizens.

Being Aussie myself I think this was tongue in cheek and likely intended to be humorous not a serious dig at you guys about guns.

P.S that is terrifying - give me the snakes and spiders any day!

I had a cougar chase me home once, and she didn't leave for month.

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

It all makes perfect sense now.

I'd personally want too have access to an entire arsenal of weapons as well, if a simple stroll in the woods involved the possibility of being hunted down by a giant "kitty cat".

The Second Amendment as written was put there in case our Government became tyrannical, in which case it was the duty of the citizens to overthrow it and install new representatives.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.

It has nothing to do about hunting or protecting yourself from wildlife.

Although here is one from my neck of the woods...

You understand absolutely nothing about our rights as American citizens.

Being Aussie myself I think this was tongue in cheek and likely intended to be humorous not a serious dig at you guys about guns.

Then I humbly apologize for my post.

All the talk here in America lately about gun rights may have made me have a thin skin about the topic.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Yea man, if you're out in the middle of nowhere, pretty much gotta have a gun.

Nothing macho about it, it's a tool. When you are in certain conditions, you make sure you have the tools to be alright. When you're that far out, a phone call isn't going to do much for you, so God forbid you have to use your tool, but better to have it and not use it.

The people who live in those conditions are no more obsessed with guns than someone with a vehicle they use for work.

a reply to: Lumenari

All good, tensions are ratcheted up pretty high over there - I don't think this member is a huge fan of your gun laws from previous posts but this from my observation this is light hearted Aussie humor.

Play on and keep away from those things!

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Yea man, if you're out in the middle of nowhere, pretty much gotta have a gun.

Nothing macho about it, it's a tool. When you are in certain conditions, you make sure you have the tools to be alright. When you're that far out, a phone call isn't going to do much for you, so God forbid you have to use your tool, but better to have it and not use it.

The people who live in those conditions are no more obsessed with guns than someone with a vehicle they use for work.

This is the exact reason I am wanting to obtain my license although the scariest predators (to humans) we have around my parts is wild dogs and in some areas feral pigs encroaching south. I see getting my rifle license and rifle in the same vain I do my chainsaw and knowing how to use it.

a reply to: Lumenari

The second amendment gives me the right to bear arms, I don't care if it was intended to stop a corrupt government, that right also gives me the right to protect myself in situations like in the video. You don't even have to shoot the cat, if you shoot the ground on side of it it will run most times, having a second, third, and fourth shot is recommended in case it charges instead of retreating. I will fight for the second amendment because I want to own a gun since I live in the woods and also I do berry picking in the summer every year, I like having a gun hanging on my side. No right to own a gun, no protection in the woods either. Think of all the consequences of taking away our guns, I also wouldn't have a way to protect myself against a thief, who would probably have a weapon if breaking into an occupied dwelling.

I am not fighting for my right to bear arms because of a possible corrupt government, I am protecting my right to own one for personal protection and to insure if things go wrong in this country, I have the ability to feed my family. They want our guns not only because they are afraid we will shoot a corrupt politician, they also want us dependent on society for everything, even meat on our table. Next they will come for our fishing poles so we have to buy fish from the stores. That is an economic tactic that has been used by governments, particularly Democrats for many decades, control the food to control the people.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

That is a good video.

Nvm.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

when injustice becomes law resistance becomes duty
Member

You have the Eureka flag and the above Jefferson quote as your avatar. I think with your past posts you really don't get it.

Leave the US and their 2A alone.

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Yea man, if you're out in the middle of nowhere, pretty much gotta have a gun.

Nothing macho about it, it's a tool. When you are in certain conditions, you make sure you have the tools to be alright. When you're that far out, a phone call isn't going to do much for you, so God forbid you have to use your tool, but better to have it and not use it.

The people who live in those conditions are no more obsessed with guns than someone with a vehicle they use for work.

This is the exact reason I am wanting to obtain my license although the scariest predators (to humans) we have around my parts is wild dogs and in some areas feral pigs encroaching south. I see getting my rifle license and rifle in the same vain I do my chainsaw and knowing how to use it.

Most cases you will bitch more about the weight of your sidearm, or rifle, than have the opportunity to need it...
but that one time you need it and you don't have it...

sound a whole lot like matey in the video, or worse.

originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: Lumenari

The second amendment gives me the right to bear arms, I don't care if it was intended to stop a corrupt government, that right also gives me the right to protect myself in situations like in the video. You don't even have to shoot the cat, if you shoot the ground on side of it it will run most times, having a second, third, and fourth shot is recommended in case it charges instead of retreating. I will fight for the second amendment because I want to own a gun since I live in the woods and also I do berry picking in the summer every year, I like having a gun hanging on my side. No right to own a gun, no protection in the woods either. Think of all the consequences of taking away our guns, I also wouldn't have a way to protect myself against a thief, who would probably have a weapon if breaking into an occupied dwelling.

I am not fighting for my right to bear arms because of a possible corrupt government, I am protecting my right to own one for personal protection and to insure if things go wrong in this country, I have the ability to feed my family. They want our guns not only because they are afraid we will shoot a corrupt politician, they also want us dependent on society for everything, even meat on our table. Next they will come for our fishing poles so we have to buy fish from the stores. That is an economic tactic that has been used by governments, particularly Democrats for many decades, control the food to control the people.

Quoted for a perfect post on the subject...

I understand the reasoning behind the Second Amendment but like you pointed out...

I personally have lions like I posted, wolves, black bears and grizzly bears in my back yard.

And then I have occasionally people from Washington checking out the property to see if we are vulnerable to a theft.

On top of that, I provide the meat for the house every year.

So it isn't just because of Jefferson's quote that I actually need a firearm or three.

It is for everything you listed.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Although this has literally NOTHING to do with our 2A, that’s an incredible encounter. We hunt and camp all the time (eastern Oregon) and haven’t had an encounter like that. We have black bear, wolf and cougars (mountain lion depending on where ya from) up here. The week before elk and bear season opened a week ago we were walking around with the kids in the forest and came across fresh bear scat and a paw about 1 1/2 foot across, fresh enough scat it made the wife nervous. I always carry in the woods, it’s stupid not too.

On another note, that dude was either really smart or lucky. That cat was trying to get him to run for one of 2 reasons. 1. I think it had some kittens? And trying to scare him off. 2. The cat wanted him to run, that’s the absolute wrong thing to do and it goes against all of your fight/fight instincts. Those damn things will slam into your rear end/neck at 30 mph which will f you up, giving them time to subdue you.

Edit: Jesus lumenari - that cat is a beast!

originally posted by: Variable2027
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Although this has literally NOTHING to do with our 2A, that’s an incredible encounter. We hunt and camp all the time (eastern Oregon) and haven’t had an encounter like that. We have black bear, wolf and cougars (mountain lion depending on where ya from) up here. The week before elk and bear season opened a week ago we were walking around with the kids in the forest and came across fresh bear scat and a paw about 1 1/2 foot across, fresh enough scat it made the wife nervous. I always carry in the woods, it’s stupid not too.

On another note, that dude was either really smart or lucky. That cat was trying to get him to run for one of 2 reasons. 1. I think it had some kittens? And trying to scare him off. 2. The cat wanted him to run, that’s the absolute wrong thing to do and it goes against all of your fight/fight instincts. Those damn things will slam into your rear end/neck at 30 mph which will f you up, giving them time to subdue you.

Yep.

Stop. Start singing a song or whistle one, hope to God that the tail isn't twitching and walk backwards, gun in hand.

And hope to GTFO of the situation without a rush.

Normally if you are in that situation, kittens or a fresh kill is the only reason you are in the situation in the first place.

So getting out of the area will fix that.

a reply to: Lumenari

If you didn’t see my edit - that cat you got a picture of is a freakin beast! Was that a trail cam around you or where you spend time at?

originally posted by: Variable2027
a reply to: Lumenari

If you didn’t see my edit - that cat you got a picture of is a freakin beast! Was that a trail cam around you or where you spend time at?

It's a trail cam pic from north of where I live, but they have a 100 mile range soOo...

Notice the scar on his shoulder?

And probably around 180-200 pounds.

Not something I'd like to walk up on!