Perseverance Rover Launch July 30 - Taking a Meteorite Back Home, page 1

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 08:42 AM

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NASA is inviting the public to take part in virtual activities and events ahead of the launch of the agency's Mars 2020 Perseverance rover, which is targeted for 7:50 a.m. EDT (4:50 a.m. PDT) Thursday, July 30, on a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.

Live coverage and countdown commentary will begin at 7 a.m. EDT (4 a.m. PDT) on NASA Television and the agency's website, as well as YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitch, Daily Motion, and Theta.TV. As part of the broadcast, Grammy Award-winning singer and songwriter Gregory Porter will perform a special rendition of "America the Beautiful."

Perseverance is NASA's latest Red Planet rover, designed to search for astrobiological evidence of ancient microbial life on Mars. Following a seven-month journey, it will land at Jezero Crater on Feb. 18, 2021. There, Perseverance will gather rock and soil samples for future return to Earth. It also will characterize the planet's climate and geology and pave the way for human exploration of the Red Planet. The robotic scientist, which weighs just under 2,300 pounds (1,043 kilograms), also will carry the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter, a technology demonstration that marks the first attempt at powered, controlled flight on another planet.

NASA Invites Public to Share Excitement of Mars 2020 Perseverance Rover Launch

The rover has a special surprise for Mars. It is returning part of Mars, that made the trip to Earth long ago.

"This little rock's got quite a life story," explained Prof Caroline Smith, head of Earth sciences collections at the NHM and a member of the Perseverance science team.

"It formed about 450 million years ago, got blasted off Mars by an asteroid or comet roughly 600,000-700,000 years ago, and then landed on Earth; we don't know precisely when but perhaps 1,000 years ago. And now it's going back to Mars," she told BBC News.

Discovered in the deserts of Oman in 1999, the meteorite, known as Sayh al Uhaymir 008, or SaU 008, is a classic piece of basalt - very similar to the type of igneous rock you will find, for example, at Giant's Causeway in Northern Ireland.

Meteorite to head home to Red Planet

The meteorite will be used as a calibration benchmark. If the rover runs into anything that indicates a sign of past life.

This is the rovers main mission on Mars, find biosignatures. All four rovers NASA has landed safely on Mars in the past, accomplished their main missions.

If this rover makes it safely to Mars the chances are pretty good it will find biosignatures on Mars of past life.

Another drip will be released from the faucet, toward the slow disclosure of life on Mars.

seedofchucky

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:08 AM

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originally posted by: LookingAtMars

If this rover makes it safely to Mars the chances are pretty good it will find biosignatures on Mars of past life

I don't think so . We've heard for decades of evidence of life once upon a time on mars. Hasn't happened . Won't happen. We can't just keep wasting money on these dumb projects chasing a ghost. Scientists were wrong about mars. This is just a ego thing now. Billions wasted to know mars has rocks.

We need to focus on new technology for further and faster space travel. Earth is getting trashed . We need a a plan B .

LookingAtMars

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:24 AM

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a reply to: seedofchucky

I don't think so . We've heard for decades of evidence of life once upon a time on mars.

TPTB do not think we are ready for that information yet.

Life on Mars could be found within two years but world is ‘not prepared’, Nasa’s chief scientist says

We can't just keep wasting money on these dumb projects chasing a ghost. Scientists were wrong about mars. This is just a ego thing now. Billions wasted to know mars has rocks.

It is not wasted money and it is a very small percent of the US budget. To me it looks like the US has had a great return from the money it has spent on space.

We need a a plan B

Agree with you here 100%.

ETA- New ways to travel in space are being worked on.

Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket

Fusion rocket

And there are more system being worked on and tested.

What if the tic-tacs are ours? They look pretty fast.

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seedofchucky

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:34 AM

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a reply to: LookingAtMars

TPTB do not think we are ready for that information yet

lmfo what ? pentagon releasing ufo videos and more information on out of earth technology . We are past ready . There is nothing there. IF there was , they would've chirped from top of the empire state and welcomed in all the new funding for more missions.... Its a dry well... not ready yet means. give us more funding . Don't worry will find something eventually

It is not wasted money and it is a very small percent of the US budget. To me it looks like the US has had a great return from the money it has spent on space.

The rovers on mars were a waste of time. After 1 rover it was moot. The money should be focused on finding new propulsion technology . We need to get to far places in short amount of time... This is where all energy and resources need to be.

Once we perfect this . then we can play find the bs on mars game.

Here is first 2 sentences on wiki

The possibility of life on Mars is a subject of huge interest in astrobiology due to its proximity and similarities to Earth. To date,no proof has been found of past or present life on Mars.

en.wikipedia.org...

HalWesten

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:37 AM

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originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: seedofchucky

I don't think so . We've heard for decades of evidence of life once upon a time on mars.

TPTB do not think we are ready for that information yet.

Life on Mars could be found within two years but world is ‘not prepared’, Nasa’s chief scientist says

We can't just keep wasting money on these dumb projects chasing a ghost. Scientists were wrong about mars. This is just a ego thing now. Billions wasted to know mars has rocks.

It is not wasted money and it is a very small percent of the US budget. To me it looks like the US has had a great return from the money it has spent on space.

We need a a plan B

Agree with you here 100%.

ETA- New ways to travel in space are being worked on.

Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket

Fusion rocket

And there are more system being worked on and tested.

What if the tic-tacs are ours? They look pretty fast.

Is it cool? Yes. Is it necessary? No. When we have homeless vets and people struggling to pay bills it's a waste of our[/url] money.

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LookingAtMars

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:41 AM

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a reply to: seedofchucky

To date,no proof has been found of past or present life on Mars.

Not true, the first lander we sent found life. Since then there have been no more tests like that to find life.

If there is life on Mars now, it is mostly underground and we aren't looking for it there much at all.

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LookingAtMars

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:44 AM

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s it cool? Yes. Is it necessary? No. When we have homeless vets and people struggling to pay bills it's a waste of our]/url] money.

There are so many stupid things that the US spends much more money on than Mars.

It would be a much different world if the US had not spent the money it did on space exploration.

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bluemooone2

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:47 AM

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I would be impressed if the Perseverance science team could return martian DNA to Earth (how wild would that be?) I am sure they are doing their part in the fairly sudden rush to get to mars and I hope all goes well.

LookingAtMars

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:52 AM

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The Perseverance science team will not be returning anything.

Perseverance will gather rock and soil samples for future return to Earth.

Maybe in 15 years or so (when we are ready) we will get a sample return. At this time there are no real plans for a sample return mission.

It would be amazing to have a sample of life from Mars.

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gortex

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:56 AM

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Hoping for good weather and a flawless launch for Percy's mission to fly a chopper on an alien world , extreme RCV-ing !
Hopefully this time the microphones will work and we will finally get to hear the sounds of Mars.

LookingAtMars

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:04 AM

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Maybe we will be able to hear the chopper crash on an alien world.

The launch window was cut in half. Need good weather for sure, or we will have to wait for at least two more years for the launch.

seedofchucky

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:05 AM

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originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: seedofchucky

To date,no proof has been found of past or present life on Mars.

Not true, the first lander we sent found life. Since then there have been no more tests like that to find life.

If there is life on Mars now, it is mostly underground and we aren't looking for it there much at all.

show me source of first lander who "found life" .... i'm waiting.

gortex

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:10 AM

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a reply to: seedofchucky

Here's one.

One prominent proponent of this view is Gilbert Levin, Experimenter of the Viking LR experiment. At first, Levin thought that the LR results were unclear, and stated merely that the results were consistent with biology. However, in 1997, after many years of further experiments on Earth, along with new discoveries on Mars (which NASA has now declared "habitable"), and the discovery of microorganisms living under conditions on Earth as severe as those on Mars, he and his Viking Co-Experimenter, Dr. Patricia A. Straat, have argued that the Mars results are best explained by living organisms.
phys.org...

I agree with them.

LookingAtMars

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:16 AM

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a reply to: seedofchucky

show me source of first lander who "found life" .... i'm waiting.

Wait no longer, here it is from the horses mouth, Gilbert V. Levin.

The principal investigator on the NASA experiment that found life on Mars.

Interesting the experiment has never been repeated on Mars. Because that is what the scientific method would require.

To make sure it was a biological reaction, the test was repeated after cooking the soil, which would prove lethal to known life. If there was a measurable reaction in the first and not the second sample, that would suggest biological forces at work – and that's exactly what happened, according to Levin.

However, other experiments failed to find any organic material and NASA couldn't duplicate the results in their laboratory – so they dismissed the positive result as false positives, some unknown chemical reaction rather than proof of extraterrestrial life.

"NASA concluded that the LR had found a substance mimicking life, but not life," said Levin in his article. "Inexplicably, over the 43 years since Viking, none of NASA's subsequent Mars landers has carried a life detection instrument to follow up on these exciting results."

Former NASA scientist says they found life on Mars in the 1970s

HalWesten

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:20 AM

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originally posted by: LookingAtMars
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s it cool? Yes. Is it necessary? No. When we have homeless vets and people struggling to pay bills it's a waste of our]/url] money.

There are so many stupid things that the US spends much more money on than Mars.

It would be a much different world if the US had not spent the money it did on space exploration.

Like? How has space exploration improved our society?

seedofchucky

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:30 AM

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originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: seedofchucky

show me source of first lander who "found life" .... i'm waiting.

Wait no longer, here it is from the horses mouth, Gilbert V. Levin.

The principal investigator on the NASA experiment that found life on Mars.

Interesting the experiment has never been repeated on Mars. Because that is what the scientific method would require.

To make sure it was a biological reaction, the test was repeated after cooking the soil, which would prove lethal to known life. If there was a measurable reaction in the first and not the second sample, that would suggest biological forces at work – and that's exactly what happened, according to Levin.

However, other experiments failed to find any organic material and NASA couldn't duplicate the results in their laboratory – so they dismissed the positive result as false positives, some unknown chemical reaction rather than proof of extraterrestrial life.

"NASA concluded that the LR had found a substance mimicking life, but not life," said Levin in his article. "Inexplicably, over the 43 years since Viking, none of NASA's subsequent Mars landers has carried a life detection instrument to follow up on these exciting results."

Former NASA scientist says they found life on Mars in the 1970s

I'll ask again since you failed in that attempt. That is not proof of "found life" .... Please don't insult my intelligence with that bs .

"NASA concluded that the LR had found a substance mimicking life, but not life,"

gortex

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:30 AM

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Space exploration will save our society , not yet but in the future we will need to leave this planet and work done now is the platform for that eventual need.

We can't stand still if we are to survive , it's nature.

seedofchucky

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:31 AM

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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: seedofchucky

Here's one.

One prominent proponent of this view is Gilbert Levin, Experimenter of the Viking LR experiment. At first, Levin thought that the LR results were unclear, and stated merely that the results were consistent with biology. However, in 1997, after many years of further experiments on Earth, along with new discoveries on Mars (which NASA has now declared "habitable"), and the discovery of microorganisms living under conditions on Earth as severe as those on Mars, he and his Viking Co-Experimenter, Dr. Patricia A. Straat, have argued that the Mars results are best explained by living organisms.
phys.org...

I agree with them.

Again . Nonsense.

"NASA concluded that the LR had found a substance mimicking life, but not life,"

LookingAtMars

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:31 AM

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Like? How has space exploration improved our society?

I found a link that lays it out pretty simply. This is really just scratching the surface.

20 things we wouldn't have without space travel

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charlyv

posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:31 AM

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originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: HalWesten

s it cool? Yes. Is it necessary? No. When we have homeless vets and people struggling to pay bills it's a waste of our]/url] money.

There are so many stupid things that the US spends much more money on than Mars.

It would be a much different world if the US had not spent the money it did on space exploration.

Like? How has space exploration improved our society?

Are you kidding?

Look what Hubble has done for the education of our children.
Look at all of the technical advanced made because we understand the nature of elements born in stars.
Look at the public space programs, namely SpaceX that will employ thousands of our children.

The list goes on infinitely and your statement required a little thought before writing it.