The Suborning and Subversion of Left Wing Groups

Violent revolutionaries dedicated to overthrowing Capitalism have subverted larger organizations ever since the Bolsheviks took control of the Russian Revolution.

It is a technique that works.

A revolutionary moves through the people like a fish moves through the sea, said Chairman Mao.

Always watchful for "useful idiots" and "fellow travellers" to advance the Cause.

George Orwell saw them do it with the Spanish Republic.

After WW2 the First Chief Directorate of the KGB got to work.

From soft targets like university lecturers and organized workers.

To hard targets like China, Cuba, Vietnam, Chile and all the rest of a long list.

Wrapped in whatever flag of convenience seemed expedient.

Always working for the violent overthrow of Capitalism.

Cultural Marxism is just a stepping stone in the plan.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I agree with a lot of that. I think that everything from communism to socialism to capitalism is simply used to either garner support, or provoke negative responses. Its catered to whatever social group they wish to target.

This corporate-political thing is kind of its own monster, in my opinion. It uses decades of marketing research coupled with government manipulation research, and then directs the population through mass coordinated media efforts and automated/AI controlled bot networks.

It is a very, very tricky thing to fight. Particularly when social groups are directed to believe they just have to cpnvert the "other side" to their ideology, and failing that.. That violent responses will achieve their ideals.

I think it all boils down to two things (well, kinda ):

Information Warfare
Centralized Dependency

The first is, IMO, a completely lost cause within the established system. The only way to minimize its impact is to avoid it. Meaning cease participation in social platforms (twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram, etc.) and stop watching & reading the news. We all gather round the kindling they provide and start the fires ourselves.

The conversations and interactions that need to take place are the ones like we are having right now. We arent sitting here battling it out with "sources" and "links" to mainstream authorities. I am speaking to you, and you are speaking to me without the manipulated middleman of so called "trusted sources."

The second can be fought by actually building the systems for self-sufficiency with modern technology. There are a lot of ways to do it, but I think the most effective are gardening and specifically aquaponics. Using solar/wind/hydro (depending on your location) to produce self-sufficient power. And, using things like 3D printers and CNC to enable manufacturing capabilities in each of our homes. Many have been directed to think of "automation" solely in terms of how it will affect things like jobs according to corporate implementation. The concept of using it in all of our homes to gain autonomy is overlooked (intentionally, imo).

Many dont realize that things like 3D printers and CNC can actually use the same platform, or that aquaponics is actually much less expensive and much less effort than they imagine. Self-sufficient power production is framed almost entirely in the "Green" conversation, or solely financial.. So that people bicker and argue along those lines. But, the true strength lies in our ability to gain energy independence on a per household basis.

Honestly, if we dont negate this mass centralized dependence from gaining more ground, and allow the manipulation to run rampant through all of our minds.. I fear the US will fall, and the West will follow. What happens after that, I dont believe any of us are going to like regardless of our feelings & beliefs.

Sounds pretty dramatic, I guess.. But even if Im completely wrong, ceasing participation in the mass manipulation and gaining self-sufficiency in our homes will have extraordinary benefits. And, if Im right, I think its the only way to really stop what is coming. Bit of a societal/cultural Pascal's Wager I suppose.

a reply to: Serdgiam

Do you feel like the infiltration of groups only affects those on the "left" or does it happen on the "right" as well?

a reply to: Gryphon66

I absolutely believe it happens with the right too.

I simply dont have personal experience there though. I mean, Ive been members of groups like gun clubs that might colloquially be seen as the "right," but they were apolitical.

That said, just from observation, I believe the specific methods are a bit different.. In the case of the right, it seems to be that ideals are best preserved through protests and eventually violent action. Slight change, same results when dealing with something of this nature.

Just as long as the mass percentage of folks that the left/right paradigm covers do not diverge from media inculcated focal points and/or corporate-political goals.

a reply to: Serdgiam

Yes, it happens with the right. Look at the TEA Party. It absolutely started out spontaneously. I was there.

But as things went, they worked through the system attempting to co=opt it from the ground up. They made impressive in-roads, but ultimately, aside from a few hold-outs, the system ate them up.