Stimulus check 2020, should the disabled get it

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I answered your stupid question.

A stimulus is designed to float the market so that your bonds can be paid out later (when they are due). My understanding of economics isn't even remotely in question. Your trolling ability, however, has completely swallowed its own load.

LMAO

thanks for that big laugh we all needed it!!!

originally posted by: neo96
How about moving on to someone else instead of snip talking.

What part was bull, Neo, the part where you thought China bought most of our bonds and they don't or where you thought some bill could make them buy more?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Bitching about the deficit ended with the tax cuts.

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
I answered your stupid question.

No, you didn't. This is my question again so bust out your crayon nubs and answer:

Is taking money from one group and giving it to another group socialism or not socialism?

originally posted by: Phage
Bitching about the deficit ended with the tax cuts.

It's always different when my guy does it, then it's sound economics or some other semantic argument.

a reply to: toolgal462

Ya, well I dont really get into sports and haven't paid to watch a movie in a long time.. if I cant get it free or close to it, like hulu, I can live without it. And, as an added perk, i avoid slot of the ads. But, if anyone should be making the big dough it should be the Budweiser horses.. at least a bigger pasture and some extra carrots.

I think there are other incentives etc they could offer people to help ease the pain of the situation such as other payroll tax reliefs and working with mortgage companies to defer payments for a month or two but I ultimately don't think this is the best way to go about it.

I am curious also to what items the government is cutting in this time of crisis for them because if less people are working they are getting less tax revenue. Are we not giving out aid to other countries, have other programs that are not essential been cut as well? What is being done to stop our massive spending issues during this time.

I would be more for the idea id I knew that the Gov was drastically cutting spending on useless programs and items. When do they start talking about a Government shutdown to save money?

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: toolgal462

Ya, well I dont really get into sports and haven't paid to watch a movie in a long time.. if I cant get it free or close to it, like hulu, I can live without it. And, as an added perk, i avoid slot of the ads. But, if anyone should be making the big dough it should be the Budweiser horses.. at least a bigger pasture and some extra carrots.

I agree about the Clydesdale horses! They are so beautiful

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I answered your stupid question.

A stimulus is designed to float the market so that your bonds can be paid out later (when they are due). My understanding of economics isn't even remotely in question. Your trolling ability, however, has completely swallowed its own load.

You really are wasting your time. It's not like he put serious thought into this or is looking for real discussion. He heard this "point" somewhere and thought it was a clever dig at conservatives and is just repeating it without understanding it. It's little more than trolling. You've spent 4 pages trying to explain it to him and he simply isn't capable of understanding it. Cut your losses bud.

originally posted by: Charliebrowndog
I think there are other incentives etc they could offer people to help ease the pain of the situation such as other payroll tax reliefs and working with mortgage companies to defer payments for a month or two but I ultimately don't think this is the best way to go about it.

I am curious also to what items the government is cutting in this time of crisis for them because if less people are working they are getting less tax revenue. Are we not giving out aid to other countries, have other programs that are not essential been cut as well? What is being done to stop our massive spending issues during this time.

I would be more for the idea id I knew that the Gov was drastically cutting spending on useless programs and items. When do they start talking about a Government shutdown to save money?

Yep, I agree with your sentiment entirely. I said as much a few pages back, let the govt. find the money somewhere in all the BS programs they use our tax payer funded money on. This is when that money we've all paid into the system should be showing us we paid it for a good reason!

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Are you willing to admit that there is alot of Mussolini style facism mixed in with that tiny bit of socialism??

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

and i did. the Constitution says promote general welfare of the people.

tell me how giving money to help people by this, where they have no choice because the Government mandated a closure of their is place of business or work is not promoting the general welfare. it's a slight compensation for that order, and in most cases if it last as long as they say will not be enough.

it's not socialism it's taking care of the people.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: neo96

I draw an income from my 401 now. This is the time I saved for. And its tanking.
I didnt have any high risk stocks in my portfolio. Just good steady income earning stocks.

All stocks are risky, some are just less so than others. If you're retired, you really shouldn't own much stocks, if any. Pursuing those gains isn't as important at this stage as preserving what you have, as you're discovering here. When the market recovers, consult a financial adviser about putting your investments in safer positions. You and I agree on pretty much nothing but I hate to see someone in financial trouble, especially if it can be easily avoided. It sounds like you were wise and saved for retirement. You need to protect it now. Don't worry about trying to grow it.

World wide pandemic=socialism.

originally posted by: face23785
He heard this "point" somewhere and thought it was a clever dig at conservatives and is just repeating it without understanding it.

Maybe you can step up and answer my simple question:

Is taking money from one group and giving it to another socialism or not socialism?

This isn't hard, unless you're ashamed by the answer.

originally posted by: dawnstar
Are you willing to admit that there is alot of Mussolini style facism mixed in with that tiny bit of socialism??

I 100% agree and think both parties are heading down the socialist bunny trail hand in hand. There's practically no difference between the two other than they both have their pet special interests that they've duped into thinking they have their best intentions at heart.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: face23785
He heard this "point" somewhere and thought it was a clever dig at conservatives and is just repeating it without understanding it.

Maybe you can step up and answer my simple question:

Is taking money from one group and giving it to another socialism or not socialism?

This isn't hard, unless you're ashamed by the answer.

All govt. money is taken from someone else. I already answered your question. Give it up already.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
and i did. the Constitution says promote general welfare of the people.

tell me how giving money to help people by this, where they have no choice because the Government mandated a closure of their is place of business or work is not promoting the general welfare. it's a slight compensation for that order, and in most cases if it last as long as they say will not be enough.

it's not socialism it's taking care of the people.

You're rationalizing why socialism is acceptable due to horrific government overreach. It's still socialism regardless of the intention or merits.

originally posted by: toolgal462
All govt. money is taken from someone else. I already answered your question. Give it up already.

And not all of it is given only to select groups. Constitutionally-mandated expenditures like national defense are outlined, giving you mooch money is not.