A few questions about Libya and Gaddafi....

I was off the grid a few years during this time of events and had a few question about the taking out of Gaddafi...


When Clinton is on tape saying we came, he saw he died and starts to laugh. She implicates the u.s. and her personally that they had an involvement in that.
And it was done most likely though providing weapons to anti libyan government groups/gangs.

So my question is did Obama and Clinton go through the proper channels to get approval for plans to take out gadaffi?

And if there was approval from congress or who ever, what were the plans for Libya after taking out their leader? What was the exit strategy?

There was a very small amount of u.s. soldiers in the country.

Who was going to maintain the government and control the masses after gadaffi was lynched?

Are there war crimes involved here?

And since the gadaffi lynching Libya has been a terrorist hot bed.

Now a side note fom a friend who was in Libya as a team of 100 plus as a private security firm during that time. These are the guys the u.s. military calls if they need a hand.

He says when Gaddafi was still alive the u.s. was arming these small anti libyan government groups with huge weapons.

These armed groups were being given orders from the u.s., mostly Clinton, Obama and McCain.

The u.s. believed these groups there were arming were allies. And that was the reason for the call of no u.s. military precense.

And it was on the anniversary of 911 that the groups the u.s. had armed decided to break ties, and to send that message they attacked the u.s. embassy.

A group that was armed by Clinton and Obama destroyed an American embassy, killed an American ambassador, and u.s. soldiers.

It was an amateur and failed mission.

And now having to answer for such a disaster, Obama tells the word trying to justify the attacks, saying these people saw a anti Mohammed cartoon and became upset.

Of course that excuse was quickly brushed aside.

Can anyone fill in?

a reply to: Bloodworth

As I remember it the coalition had information on a huge convoy moving towards the western border. Air strikes were given the green light and the rest is kinda history.

Obviously the coalition tipped off the rebels or their could've been special forces on the ground. It was a NATO led operation in all technicality. The RAF spotted the convoy, and NATO drones led the attack if I remember correctly. It was French jets that done most of the work.

The rebels showed up and fought the remaining loyalists.

So as for war crimes etc I guess most people involved are fairly safe. It was a NATO operation and Qaddafi was wanted for war crimes.

a reply to: RAY1990

Russian and Egyptian military are going for Tripoli as we speak to take it back from NATO. Only hope to keep it is Turkey sends in more military but it's probably going to fall and go back to Eastern Bloc any day now along with its oil plus Vlad can then continue to funnel in more sub Saharans into migrant boats to destabilise the EU and cause more Br......Exit type events in addition to getting hold of the oil

a reply to: Bloodworth

Hillary's hacked emails revealed what the world already knew: that the Western led Mid East genocides are due to oil and gold.

New Hillary Emails Reveal Propaganda, Executions, Coveting Libyan Oil and Gold.

But historians of the 2011 NATO war in Libya will be sure to notice a few of the truly explosive confirmations contained in the new emails:

admissions of rebel war crimes, special ops trainers inside Libya from nearly the start of protests, Al Qaeda embedded in the U.S. backed opposition, Western nations jockeying for access to Libyan oil, the nefarious origins of the absurd Viagra mass rape claim, and concern over Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves threatening European currency.

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Bloodworth

As I remember it the coalition had information on a huge convoy moving towards the western border. Air strikes were given the green light and the rest is kinda history.

Obviously the coalition tipped off the rebels or their could've been special forces on the ground. It was a NATO led operation in all technicality. The RAF spotted the convoy, and NATO drones led the attack if I remember correctly. It was French jets that done most of the work.

The rebels showed up and fought the remaining loyalists.

So as for war crimes etc I guess most people involved are fairly safe. It was a NATO operation and Qaddafi was wanted for war crimes.

Thanks for the info....what was that convoys purpose?

a reply to: gladtobehere

Depleted uranium nuclear bombs? ...Really?

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: gladtobehere

Depleted uranium nuclear bombs? ...Really?

That was my thought.
Geez , if one is going to post fantasy , at least make a minor attempt to make it somewhat believable.

a reply to: Bloodworth

NATO intercepted a satellite call during the convoy's movements that pretty much proved Gaddafi was within it. It was moving high speed west I believe so most likely Tunisia but it could've been Algeria.

I remember that it was assumed he might have already escaped, family members gained asylum in neighbouring countries. He was planning on escaping himself.

He was a crazy old fool, at first he thought he could regroup and fight back. I always wondered why he changed his mind...

I actually talked to youtuber in Libya that told me that Gaddafi was totally loved by the people. That the rebels were mercenaries trained by the US to take out their leader. That they were powerless to stop them because the rebels were armed to the teeth with the latest US ammunitions.

When you lookup what gadaffi gave to his people its no wonder they loved him so much. With free schooling, free healthcare, full unemployment benefits etc etc etc they were well looked after.

a reply to: Gothmog

Yeah...

Considering every nuclear nation that attempted to support Libyan nuclear ambitions ran away I kinda find it hard to believe.

They, the Libyans didn't have a clue. Like a looney tunes sketch, complete with ACME qualifications and the works.

a reply to: glend

Sure you weren't talking to a propagandist?

Because it was technically NATO who leveled the playing field and gave the rebels/insurgents/mercenaries a chance.

Logistically it's not that easy to hire an army, arm them and take over a nation. Not saying it's impossible just unlikely... There's truth in the uprising angle is all I'm saying.

When it comes to types of ammunition and weaponry there's only so much of an edge you can get with small arms. It was mostly Libyan weapons used in that war. Nobody gave them tanks or other hardware.

a reply to: RAY1990

I am pretty sure he was telling the truth. I was actually talking to him regarding spiritualism which latter turned into discussion about Gaddafi.

"It was mostly Libyan weapons used in that war."

On australia tv I saw an australian current affairs report directly from Libya. The reporter was talking to a rebel leader that took the reporter into a warehouse full of ammunitions. All the boxes had US markings. The reporter looked embarassed and didn't say anything about US markings just gave the camera a strange look. They had anti-tank guided missiles, the works. they were fully armed for war. It was definately a military operation.

I am sure the rebels were the same that later entered Syria. As this nytime article states the rebels were trained by US as a covert action by CIA...

NY TImes Article

A new bank was setup near the Eastern boarder about 3 weeks before the invasion started.

Gaddafi did have a long history of killing people, 15 here, 20 there, 65 there, 3 here... Most where bandit groups coming up from the South causing trouble. He did manage to go three years at one stage without having to kill anyone. There was no war crimes trial. The Lockerbie airplane bombing event was dragged through the headlines again, demonising Libya.

France and other NATO members where happy at the time to take out Gaddafi, they might of changed their minds with the migration issues getting worst since.

Libya was targeted by the Rothschild international banking cartel. They where on list with other countries like Syria, Iran and North Korea for having Nationalistic control of their own currencies. Gaddafi was working on a gold backed Dinar for Africa.

The irrigation project was one of the first few things bombed. Western media was embedded with the Rebels during the invasion. Al Quada forces made up some of the rebels, which did move onto Syria afterwards. Obama was happy for Sharia Law to take over Libya, slaves where being traded in the street in what was once the African Nation with the best quality of life for its people.

All the work Gaddafi had done with the African National Council came to a quick end. He was one leader working to unify Africa and was making progress. It was sad what happened, too see Hillary Clinton laughing about it is telling to her evil and wicked nature. How someone can think destroying a nation is a joke is beyond me.

a reply to: kwakakev
It was all done on that reason. Gaddafi was near to dumping the Petro- Dollar and instigating a Pan African currency. America and the worlds banksters couldn't let that happen as that would have been the start of the landslide against the Dollar.
I can find no reports of any NATO boots on the ground in Libya. They pulled out after 2011-2012. As for Turkey, I think you're mixing Libya with Syria.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: gladtobehere

Depleted uranium nuclear bombs? ...Really?

DU Bombs might be a reach but Depleted Uranium is no joke.

Please don't pretend that it is fallout free.

originally posted by: glend
I actually talked to youtuber in Libya that told me that Gaddafi was totally loved by the people. That the rebels were mercenaries trained by the US to take out their leader. That they were powerless to stop them because the rebels were armed to the teeth with the latest US ammunitions.

When you lookup what gadaffi gave to his people its no wonder they loved him so much. With free schooling, free healthcare, full unemployment benefits etc etc etc they were well looked after.

Anyone who has actually looked at this without "MURIKA" bias knows this.

I am disappointed that some ardent Trump supporters in this thread are so f#cking ignorant that they don't even realise that all this happened under Zero and HRC.

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

originally posted by: kwakakev
A new bank was setup near the Eastern boarder about 3 weeks before the invasion started.

Gaddafi did have a long history of killing people, 15 here, 20 there, 65 there, 3 here... Most where bandit groups coming up from the South causing trouble. He did manage to go three years at one stage without having to kill anyone. There was no war crimes trial. The Lockerbie airplane bombing event was dragged through the headlines again, demonising Libya.

France and other NATO members where happy at the time to take out Gaddafi, they might of changed their minds with the migration issues getting worst since.

Libya was targeted by the Rothschild international banking cartel. They where on list with other countries like Syria, Iran and North Korea for having Nationalistic control of their own currencies. Gaddafi was working on a gold backed Dinar for Africa.

The irrigation project was one of the first few things bombed. Western media was embedded with the Rebels during the invasion. Al Quada forces made up some of the rebels, which did move onto Syria afterwards. Obama was happy for Sharia Law to take over Libya, slaves where being traded in the street in what was once the African Nation with the best quality of life for its people.

All the work Gaddafi had done with the African National Council came to a quick end. He was one leader working to unify Africa and was making progress. It was sad what happened, too see Hillary Clinton laughing about it is telling to her evil and wicked nature. How someone can think destroying a nation is a joke is beyond me.

So true and it genuinely makes me feel sick in my stomach when I think about it.

The entire Clinton/Bush Cabal should be dealt with properly. They are psychopaths.