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OIG Report on FISA Abuse Released

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posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:00 PM
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IG Report is full of BS crap.... these swamp creatures should be in jail.



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:01 PM
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Horowitz is the mechanic inspecting the vehicle for irregularities. Durham is investigating whether the car manufacturer built in defects to make it not last long.

By the way, John Durham just issued a statement saying he did not agree with some of Michael Horowitz's conclusions in the IG report. Conclusions that he was not equipped properly to arrive at.
edit on 12/9/2019 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Comey and cronies ignored woods procedures.

Cause well, Trump bad.



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: dashen
Seriously nobody?


Nobody of any consequence and no charges of any consequence.

I'll give you at least 2-1 on bourbons on the Boston meet up.



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
If there is a consistent pattern it's not an error. Errors and mistakes are suppose to be uncommon, hardly any. That's why it's called an error. Not the case here. Deliberate action after action to create the outcome they wanted.



Jeez, you make it sounds if the errors with the 4 FiSA apps were intentional.

The FBI and DOJ were just incompetent, not intentionally showing the courts all the evidence.

Errors you correct the second time you put the App through. Not keep them hidden for 4 tries.



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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It says right there black and white the FBI knew that Carter page was registered as a Russian go-between with another US agency and they omitted it from the fisa application as if he was unauthorized to communicate with high-level Russians



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You didn't believe Trump would be president when we met up at the first 1



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Non-libbie. Did read it. Not trolling.

Happy? (i'm assuming not)

Direct your disappointment and anger at someone else. If anyone seriously considers this anything but a let down they are delusional. It's actually even less devastating than Muellers report if that's even possible.



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:07 PM
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Literally never met


Omitted Page's consensually monitored
statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that
Page had "literally never met" or "said one word
to" Paul Manafort and that Manafort had not
responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those
statements were in tension with claims in Report
95 that Page was participating in a conspiracy
with Russia by acting as an intermediary for
Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: carewemust


By the way, John Durham just issued a statement saying he did not agree with some of Michael Horowitz's conclusions in the IG report. Conclusions that he was not equipped properly to arrive at.



“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”


Statement of U.S. Attorney John H. Durham

Depending on what Durham finds then we might see some consequences but the OIG report does not seem to have much behind it other than procedural review.



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: neo96

So only 17 errors in the FOUR Fisa and even more in the Woods.


That's not a pattern. Where's the second hand testimony proving it?



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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Hanniy promised us people would be going to jail! whats going on!



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:09 PM
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I don't know if I'm reading between the lines too much here but I'm pretty sure this report is burning Carter page as an intelligence agent



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: TooCloseToTheSun
a reply to: dashen

Prepare to be disappointed.

a reply to: Grambler

Sure OK.


If you really find this nothing burger w/ weak sauce "devastating" and beyond belief what on earth were you expecting?
This is a massive disappointed for Republicans, its Barr or nothing now for Trump.


Why don't you read the GD report man????

If you have enough time to read the report, you'll see that what you are saying sounds ridiculous to the rest of us actually looking at the report...

Here's one for you:


As we noted last year in our review of the Midyear investigation, the FBI has developed and earned a reputation as one of the world's premier law enforcement agencies in significant part because of its tradition of professionalism, impartiality,
non-political enforcement of the law, and adherence to detailed policies, practices, and norms. It was precisely these qualities that were required as the FBI initiated and conducted Crossfire Hurricane. However, as we describe in this report, our review identified significant concerns with how certain aspects of the investigation were conducted and supervised, particularly the FBI's failure to adhere to its own standards of accuracy and completeness when filing applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) authority to surveil Carter Page, a U.S. person who was connected to the Donald J. Trump for President Campaign. We also identified what we believe is an absence of sufficient policies to ensure appropriate Department oversight of significant investigative decisions that could affect constitutionally protected activity.


The IG found that the FBI was able to have a negative impact on constitutionally protected activities.

They also found significant concerns with aspects of the investigation, including the FBI's FAILURE to adhere to checks and balances! That's not an "oops" on someone, it isn't one person that handles FISA applications. Failure to adhere to standards of accuracy and completeness flat out says the IG found inaccuracy and incompleteness in what was filed. Whether there is intent here or not, that is what Barr and Durham are likely looking into, and it would appear to a vast majority of Americans, that there was malicious intent.

You might be new here, but that won't buy you much... ignorance of the laws are not an excuse or pass to break them.

Deny Ignorance.

~Namaste



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: dashen
You didn't believe Trump would be president when we met up at the first 1


We met on November 12th 2016, the election was already over.



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: nataliep
Hanniy promised us people would be going to jail! whats going on!


I mean... it's Hannity... it's Fox News. They are a joke for a reason.

If Clinton isn't in jail yet and Trump doesn't go to jail shortly then you can be damn sure no-one important is going to jail after this report.



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: pavil

We just need the inferrence there wuz.




posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:13 PM
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Starting in December 2016, FBI staff
participated in an interagency effort to assess the
Russian government's intentions and actions concerning
the 2016 U.S. elections. We learned that whether and
how to present Steele's reporting in the Intelligence
Community Assessment (ICA) was a topic of significant
discussion between the FBI and the other agencies
participating in it. According to FBI staff, as the
interagency editing process for the ICA progressed, the
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) expressed concern
about the lack of vetting for the Steele election
reporting and asserted it did not merit inclusion in the
body of the report. An FBI Intel Section Chief told us
the CIA viewed it as "internet rumor." In contrast, as
we describe in Chapter Six, the FBI, including Corney
and McCabe, sought to include the reporting in the ICA.

Limited information from the Steele reporting ultimately
was presented in an appendix to the ICA.



Wtf !



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Meaning before the meetup.
We were all dumbfounded by the time we met up
Now we become accustomed to the crazy being turned up to 11
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posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: SonOfTheLawOfOne

Thats it?

Thats all you've got? Concerns.



, and it would appear to a vast majority of Americans, that there was malicious intent.


Can you source this please. Unless that's just your over-reaction dress as fact.

Nothing meet burger.



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