Will self driving cars need stop lights?

Self driving cars really ought to have stop lasers instead of stop lights.

Lights = boring, overdone

Lasers = futuristic

Self driving cars = futuristic

We need this.

a reply to: nerbot

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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: JAGStorm

Once every single vehicle without exception become auto then stops lights will not mater.

Just so long as your not a bike rider, riding just behind an automated car, which is blocking your view of whats happening in front, when it needs to come to a sudden stop.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: JAGStorm

Once every single vehicle without exception become auto then stops lights will not mater.

Just so long as your not a bike rider, riding just behind an automated car, which is blocking your view of whats happening in front, when it needs to come to a sudden stop.

I think when self driving cars go full force, pedestrians and bikers will not be on the same road/path etc. We'll see

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: JAGStorm

Nope.

Once every single vehicle without exception become auto then stops lights will not mater.

Once every single vehicle without exception become auto then stops lights will not mater.

"Once" is the operative word..it'll never happen. Cars are machines, computers are machines, traffic systems are machines, they are all fallible...and often. Once you abrogate all responsibility to a machine or, in this case mulltiple machines that operate freely in an open system like humans do, you are doomed.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Bicycles won't share the same navigation paths as autonomous vehicles. Already they are creating lanes just for autonomous vehicles.

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Bicycles won't share the same navigation paths as autonomous vehicles. Already they are creating lanes just for autonomous vehicles.

Yeah on highways and freeways maybe.

But autonomous vehicles would be completely useless if they weren't essentially transporting people to places, where people congregate... such as home, work or shopping centers.

So at some point autonomous vehicles will always eventually need to cross paths with pedestrians, so they'll always require brake lights.

a reply to: nerbot

Why would they need windshields?

To prevent the window pisser from squirting you in the face when you’re sleeping . Duh 😆

You know what's trippy?

When my daughters grow up, the terms "automatic" and "manual", with regard to cars, will perhaps mean something totally different.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Do you require break lights on bicycles in front of you for you to know they are stopping?

Bicycles and pedestrians will have little interaction with autonomous vehicles except at loading zones where it is expected everyone is stopping and moving. The autonomous vehicle will be the least of your worries and will know you are there before you know it.

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Bicycles won't share the same navigation paths as autonomous vehicles. Already they are creating lanes just for autonomous vehicles.

That is self limiting though...that's the thing, nobody seems to want to do spacial thinking. Even the cars, you see being used as platforms for the tech, are bog standard production cars with adaptations, it's okay to buy a hybrid engined car, it would not be okay to buy a hybrid adapted autonomous car.

a reply to: smurfy

The autonomous cars of the future won't have to be built to accommodate today's human driven vehicles running alongside them. Most of the sensors and tech on these cars today are only for the other vehicles that don't have it. They also won't require special lanes because all roads will be built for them and there will no longer be human driven vehicles. The special lanes today are only there as a stop gap measure because communities realize spending millions on a new highway that won't work in 30 years for autonomous vehicles is a waste of money.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

I’m not sure I could sit in the metal box with no visibility while it’s doing 70 miles an hour down the interstate on auto pilot .

As a matter fact I know I couldn’t . 😱

Have they solved the problem of snow covered roads, obliterating all lane designations and road widths? Get up in the upper Midwest, you can barely guess where the road is at times.

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: smurfy

The special lanes today are only there as a stop gap measure because communities realize spending millions on a new highway that won't work in 30 years for autonomous vehicles is a waste of money.

That was my point...stop gaps...they themselves are a waste of money, nor do people necessarily realise that new highways are needed, because the blurb is..autonomous cars, cars that drive themselves..no caveats given. We have seen already someone being killed on a perfectly ordinary road, with a perfectly ordinary situation that happens every day, while ultimately a human got most of the blame, doing what people are doing all the time while actually in charge of a vehicle, a glance at a mobile at a pedestrian crossing or whatever, the fact is though, it was the car that didn't stop for a human...something so fundamental to the ethos of an automated vehicle IHMO.
Your still talking level 5, that is impossible.
Okay, cars won't be looking at their mobiles, but that's not the point is it?

a reply to: smurfy

You can't compare today's driver assisted vehicle to what it will be like in 30 years when we will have truly autonomous vehicles that constantly communicate with each other. We have to drive something between now and then and so we might as well have driver assists now which help create better autonomy for the future Our roads also need constant repair and we know what is coming down the pike so we might as well try to accommodate the change.

There is going to be a huge adjustment for sure and the biggest obstacle isn't tech but liability and laws.

a reply to: Identified

Self driving cars are only a stop gap towards self driving flying cars...just saying.

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: smurfy

You can't compare today's driver assisted vehicle to what it will be like in 30 years when we will have truly autonomous vehicles that constantly communicate with each other. We have to drive something between now and then and so we might as well have driver assists now which help create better autonomy for the future Our roads also need constant repair and we know what is coming down the pike so we might as well try to accommodate the change.

There is going to be a huge adjustment for sure and the biggest obstacle isn't tech but liability and laws.

I have already said a whole new vehicle is needed, I have already spoken about responsibility, however coms and 'stuff' is just as vulnerable tomorrow as it is midnight today, as would any carcass on wheels, levitation, flying whatever are. The difference being wheels, despite progress, are inferior tech as we speak, however wheels on the ground are also the most adaptive, immediate form of transport, that is available, and everybody knows that.
Level 5 syndrome requires far more than that, it requires Quantum computing judgement far and beyond, what these autonomous vehicles today are capable of, and they should not be on ordinary roads, for a long, long time.

a reply to: Fallingdown

what if the inside was one big screen and had access to the internet?

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: nerbot

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Perfect, that gives you more time to bang up some sammiches whilst the car is driving itself!

As well as a bed I vote for having a cooker and an ironing board installed too... 😈😈

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